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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:52 pm 
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I'm sad St. Patty's Day falls on a Saturday this year because I wanted to wear orange and wait for people to ask me why I wasn't wearing green. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:40 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:04 am 
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What the hell, Sal?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:31 am 
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I think Sal went way too far with Nazi and Confederacy comparisons, but he has a good point. The colour orange has a history of being associated with Protestants in Europe. The colour is used today by various Protestant groups in Scotland and Ireland that range from okayish to far-right. The most famous of these are the Orange Order. I would definitely not wear that colour in the British Isles on Saint Patrick's Day.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:53 am 
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I generally forget to say, so if it's relevant and I don't mention it--I'm from Southern Michigan and speak Inland North American English. Yes, I have the Northern Cities Vowel Shift; no, I don't have the cot-caught merger; and it is called pop.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:36 am 
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Forgot who made the post; thought it was Kath. No problem there then.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:02 pm 
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@Vijay: AFAICT, Sal i referring to 19th century immigrants to India from China. He is perhaps even referring to earlier migration than that.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:10 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:18 pm 
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I think most Americans don't even know about the Orange Order and related stuff, even if they are of Irish descent.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:42 pm 
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I can't seem to find a proxy for Twitter anymore. This is getting increasingly inconvenient.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:43 pm 
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The board is my twitter.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:16 pm 
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My sleep was so restless last night it was like not sleeping at all. All I want to do is go home and crash but I have one meeting today I really can't miss...and it's at 4 p.m.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:10 am 
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Pop songs from the Balkans creep the shit out of me sometimes. As someone who basically majored in Romani linguistics and had Ian Hancock as his advisor, I can't help thinking about how the model singers with powdery white skin and/or nationalist music videos might play into general antigypsyism. I was watching because somebody nominated it in a forum song contest elsewhere, and my eyes were wide the whole time.


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Two of my friends share a birthday today and one was complaining to me about the other's choice of restaurant. When we heard he wanted rotary sushi, I was like, It won't be good but I'll humour him. Then I realised it's Monday which--unless things have changed--is traditionally the day fresh fish markets are closed, so most industry insiders warn people to avoid ordering fish on Mondays and I was like I hope it's not bad enough to make me sick. Now he's just revealed that he picked the place he did because it's "all you can eat" for $20 and I'm like I hope I survive.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:16 am 
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Is that place even open on Mondays? EDIT: Can you just get something that doesn't have fish in it?

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Moderator: I'm thinking of splitting up this subforum for Native American languages into the following language family-specific subforums. What does everybody think?
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Me: I like your idea, but I'm going to tentatively propose adding a few more subforums for the following language families because they have many members.
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Admin: Unless by "members" you mean forum members, it doesn't matter how many speakers a language has.
Me: ...I was talking about the members of language families, which are languages. Next time you want to shoot someone's ideas down, maybe try asking what they meant first instead of giving them a fucking heart attack for no reason.
Admin: But Vijay! What is so bad about jumping out of nowhere commenting on languages I know nothing about and putting words in your mouth even though I can basically do whatever the hell I want with this subforum and you can't do diddly squat?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:32 pm 
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Been peeved at work lately. A bit of background, followed by a giant rant (sorry):

I work on a team of five. There's me, "Dan", "Cameron", "Nick", and "Kevin". Dan and Cameron have been on the project the longest; they started it and had a lot of impact on its direction. Nick has been on the project the third-longest, but isn't as experienced of a developer. Kevin and I are new to the project, but Kevin is an experienced developer. I'm the least-experienced developer of us.
Our main problem is the division between the "old-timers" (Dan and Cam) and the "newcomers" (Nick, Kevin, and me). On one hand, because of their experience, Dan and Cam know a lot that the rest of us might not consider when designing and implementing stuff. On the other, this means they can fall into the trap of assuming their methods are best by default. Dan is usually fine—he's chill and willing to listen, even when you're telling him you think he's wrong.

Cam, on the other hand...

Cam does not take well to disagreement. His method is the One True Method, and he is Always Correct, and if you disagree with him, you are Wrong (and a threat). He sticks his nose into everyone's business, is nitpicky to the extreme about things that don't matter, and gets passive-aggressive when he perceives people as Doing Things Wrong. Besides these pleasant qualities, he's also horrible at communicating (he ONLY communicates via Slack, even though he sits three feet from me, and his messages are so vague they're impossible to decipher). I'll be fair to him—he's a good developer and he often is right (or his way is also valid). But his attitude makes you want to disagree with everything he says.

This didn't used to be a problem for me, mostly because I was new enough to the team that I'd go along with whatever he said. (and he's only in the office two days a week anyway) But lately I've noticed two things:

1. The more I push back on what Cam says—not, like, screaming that he's wrong, but questioning if his way really is better or pushing back against his nitpicks—the more passive-aggressive and nitpicky he gets toward me.

2. Cam hates Nick, and constantly blames him for things (not directly, but passive-aggressively).
These two things together have made me realize a third thing: Cam is only nitpicky and blamey with me and Nick. Not Dan, who's too nice to be angry at, and not Kevin, who takes no crap from anybody. Just me and Nick.

This all culminated yesterday when I needed his help to sort out issues I'd caused in our code. Instead of just buckling down and helping me figure out how to fix it, he spent like an hour rehashing what went wrong (I UNDERSTAND WHAT WENT WRONG) and subtly blaming Nick (IT WAS ME, NOT NICK) and refusing to answer yes or no questions (I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF MY SUGGESTION WILL WORK OR NOT). After like three hours of this, it culminated in angry crying in the bathroom, after which I literally screamed the entire drive home. (kind of surprised I didn't lose my voice)

THIS DUDE

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN FURIOUS ENOUGH TO CRY AT WORK IN LITERALLY YEARS

AND HERE WE ARE

I've finally put it together, though. I knew he didn't like being challenged (why he and Nick don't get along—because Nick can be obstinate and argumentative himself, so he disagrees with Cam all the time), but I've realized his main thing is that the project is his baby and he doesn't like other developers getting their dirty fingers all over it. But he knows intellectually that we all need to work together to get it done. So instead of handling his issues like an adult, he lashes out passive-aggressively against people he perceives as vulnerable: the two least-experienced developers on the project, who he might browbeat into listening to him. (which explains why he doesn't do it to Kevin, despite Kevin disagreeing with him as much or more than Nick does)

I'm also pretty sure that Cam legitimately doesn't realize this (why he's such a dick, or that he's a dick at all), but I don't accept that as an excuse. Part of being an adult means not alienating all your coworkers, or at least realizing when you've done so.

tl;dr: my coworker is a very tall infant

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:42 pm 
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That's too bad. And that reminds me:

I get along with everyone at work: my co-workers, the supervisors, people from other teams, even the janitors. (Well, okay, I have a few (newer) co-workers who I haven't managed to talk to yet. Some of them don't even say hi to me even though we see each other every day, but then I'm equally or perhaps even more guilty in those cases. I've been thinking maybe I should be the one to try initiating the interaction, and I unfortunately keep forgetting to make it a point to do that). Then today, I found out that my employers have asked whether the one person I have not been able to get along with whether she'd like to come back. Neither the person who told me that nor I know whether she's accepted or not yet.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:15 am 
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I've worked with people like Cameron before. They are the worst. I know that I can be like that with my own conworld, but there's a reason for why it is not a collab project.

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