The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
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debris
Mark stress if you feel it's necessary
Mark stress if you feel it's necessary
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Error?
For me it would something like [erɔr] but I'm non-native
For me it would something like [erɔr] but I'm non-native
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/dəˈbri/ [dəˈbɹɯi̯]
/er̯ɚ/ [ˈʔeɚ̯.ɚ] (or even more narrowly [ˈʔeɚ̯̂ː] with the length on the second element of the diphthong)
/er̯ɚ/ [ˈʔeɚ̯.ɚ] (or even more narrowly [ˈʔeɚ̯̂ː] with the length on the second element of the diphthong)
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Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
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[ˈdɛ.bʋ͡ɹʷˠɪi̯]
[ˈɛ.ʋ͡ɹʷˠɜ]
[ˈɛ.ʋ͡ɹʷˠɜ]
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something: [sʌm.θɪŋ], [sʌm.θɪn], or [sʌ̃ʔ.m̩]
debris: [dəˈbɹi]
error: [ɛɹ.ɹ̩]
debris: [dəˈbɹi]
error: [ɛɹ.ɹ̩]
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debris
[dəˈbɹiː]~[ˈde.bɹiː], sometimes with [ɛ] for good measure.
[dəˈbɹiː]~[ˈde.bɹiː], sometimes with [ɛ] for good measure.
[bɹ̠ˤʷɪs.təɫ]
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Yo te pongo en tu lugar...
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Nōn quālibet inīquā cupiditāte illectus hoc agō
Yo te pongo en tu lugar...
Taisc mach Daró
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My 'error' is [ˈɛɹ.ɚ], unless I'm trying to sound like a robot, in which case it would be [ɛɹ.ɔ˞], with roughly equal stress on each syllable.
As for debris, I consistently say [dəˈbɹi].
As for debris, I consistently say [dəˈbɹi].
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"recognize"
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'Recognize'? /rekəgnaɪz/ I don't believe anyone says anything else, though in narrow transcription mine is [ɹʷɛkəgnäɪ̯z].
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I find it sounds equally acceptable to me with a second /g/ replacing the /k/, but I don't know anyone for whom that's the primary pronunciation.
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"round"
Does anybody have a monophthong here?
Does anybody have a monophthong here?
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For 'round', I have /raʊnd/. I believe strong Geordie and Scottish accents have /ruːnd/.
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I was just curious because myself and a lot of other people around here seem to elide the /g/ to nothing a lot of the time. I didn't know if that was a common way of saying it.PVER•PVERUM•AMAT wrote:'Recognize'? /rekəgnaɪz/ I don't believe anyone says anything else, though in narrow transcription mine is [ɹʷɛkəgnäɪ̯z].
I don't think I would ever say "round" in particular with a monophthong, but I do say /aʊ/ as [æ(ə??)] in some environments unknown to me.
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I personally elide the /g/ in recognize as a matter of course.Theta wrote:I was just curious because myself and a lot of other people around here seem to elide the /g/ to nothing a lot of the time. I didn't know if that was a common way of saying it.PVER•PVERUM•AMAT wrote:'Recognize'? /rekəgnaɪz/ I don't believe anyone says anything else, though in narrow transcription mine is [ɹʷɛkəgnäɪ̯z].
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.
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recognise [ˈʋ͡ɹɛ.kəg.nɐɪ̯z] (no eliding)
round [ɹ͡ʋæʊ̯nd]
Often monopthongizes to [ɹ͡ʋæːnd]
round [ɹ͡ʋæʊ̯nd]
Often monopthongizes to [ɹ͡ʋæːnd]
It was about time I changed this.
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Ol bofosh, are you, perchance, from East London? Your pronunciations of 'recognize' and 'round' strike me as Cockney.
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"Recognize" without /g/ strikes me as an AAVE thing, but there are a lot of things that strike me as AAVE things that are probably just not as conservative as what I'd say. (Do white people say "put it up" for "put it away"?)
I might say [ɹæ̃ː], but not when I'm paying attention -- it's [ɹæ̃ːɞ̯nd] or so in isolation. (I'm still not sure how to transcribe that diphthong, but it's not [au̯] at all. The first element is [æ], and the second is something like a rounded schwa.)Pole, the wrote:"round"
Does anybody have a monophthong here?
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
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Almost. Certainly Cockney influenced. South East England has adopted a lot of Cockney-type features. I have bits of Cockney and RP (i.e. Estuary).PVER•PVERUM•AMAT wrote:Ol bofosh, are you, perchance, from East London? Your pronunciations of 'recognize' and 'round' strike me as Cockney.
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I'd say 'put up' and 'put away' are both fine, but there's some kind of semantic difference between them that I'm not sure of right now. I think it has to do with the kind of object involved. When you say "Do white people say 'put it up' for 'put it away'" do you mean '[most white people don't say "put it up" for any kind of whatever and] AAVE speakers usually say "put it up" for most whatevers.' or do you mean something similar to what I'm saying--that both are possible in non-AAVE speech but AAVE speakers merge them?Nortaneous wrote:"Recognize" without /g/ strikes me as an AAVE thing, but there are a lot of things that strike me as AAVE things that are probably just not as conservative as what I'd say. (Do white people say "put it up" for "put it away"?)
I might say [ɹæ̃ː], but not when I'm paying attention -- it's [ɹæ̃ːɞ̯nd] or so in isolation. (I'm still not sure how to transcribe that diphthong, but it's not [au̯] at all. The first element is [æ], and the second is something like a rounded schwa.)
(2) I have the same reservations against transcribing the vowel in <coat> as /oʊ/. I don't think the first element is actually rounded for a lot of speakers in America (just the South?). I'm much more pleased with transcribing it as /ʌu/ but then that's weird too because I don't think the English /ʌ/ is actually a back vowel. I get the whole thing about the symbols just being traditional ways of writing those sounds and IPA being arbitrary etc. etc. but it still seems wrong *inside*.
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I say [kʰoʊ̯t̚] for coat. But then, I'm Canadian.
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I'm pretty sure my /ʌ/ is a back vowel, and I know that the first element of /oʊ/ is rounded, because for me, /s/ is realised as [sʷ] before any rounded vowel.
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[kʰəʉt] for me.
Also, news on recognise, I could myself geminating the n last night: [ˈʋɹɛ.kənːɐɪ̯z]. I don't know if that's normal, or if that only happened cos I was too tired to speak properly.
Also, news on recognise, I could myself geminating the n last night: [ˈʋɹɛ.kənːɐɪ̯z]. I don't know if that's normal, or if that only happened cos I was too tired to speak properly.
It was about time I changed this.
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How do people pronounce "wolf" and "wolves"? I have just noticed that the vowel in the later is becoming more open and more tense.
[wʊɫf] ~ [wɫ̩f]
[wɔˑɫvz]
[wʊɫf] ~ [wɫ̩f]
[wɔˑɫvz]
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[əˈɫɛvn̩ tʰwɛɫs]Basilius wrote:11/12.
(I mean, the fraction. Like two thirds, only 11/12.)
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Theta: My impression (which could be wrong) is that "put it up" is strictly limited to AAVE and maybe the Southern dialects that influenced it, with "put it away" being its equivalent everywhere else. "Put it up" is never valid IMI.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.