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[ˈsɛkn̩d]
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Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.
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The same here, I think.birds aren't real wrote: What happens to /jur/? (For me it varies between [j@r] and [jor], usually the former.)
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[sɛ̞kn̩ʔ]Matrix wrote:[ˈsɛkn̩d]
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varies between d and t for me, and I hear it with t sometimesvokzhen wrote:Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.
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This sounds annoyingly American-Californian-high-school-teen to me (oh em gee SO in sync ! that kind of thing). But perhaps the actual realization is less bad than that I would pronounce your IPA here.vokzhen wrote:Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.
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[ˈsɛ.kən(d) ~ ˈsɛ.k͡ʔn̩(d)]
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Mine's about the same, though the final consonant may be more of an unreleased t [t̚] than a simple glottal stop. Based on some impromptu experimentation, I think I might be more prone to pronounce the final consonant as [d] when the following word begins with a sonorant, possibly with re-syllabification. So "second one" is something like [sɛk(ɨ̃)n dwən].vokzhen wrote:Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.
Incidentally, I am from California, though it's been some time since I was in high school.
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Actually, your example made me rethink it a bit. It's probably actually [sɛkɨ̃(n)ʔ] for me, as in "second one" alveolar contact isn't present or only present rarely, afaict. (Or maybe [sɛk(ɨ̃)(n)ʔ], depending on context, but a) that's ugly, and b) I probably do always have a vowel there, but when there is an actual [n] present, it just feels like it's transition from one POA to another, not a "real" vowel).CatDoom wrote:Mine's about the same, though the final consonant may be more of an unreleased t [t̚] than a simple glottal stop. Based on some impromptu experimentation, I think I might be more prone to pronounce the final consonant as [d] when the following word begins with a sonorant, possibly with re-syllabification. So "second one" is something like [sɛk(ɨ̃)n dwən].vokzhen wrote:Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.
Incidentally, I am from California, though it's been some time since I was in high school.
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<rather>
[ɻɑðɚ] or perhaps better transcribed as [ɻɑðɻ̩]. Not sure if those are actually different or not.
A lot of my /ɻ/s are also strongly labialized, as in <red>, but I feel like it is not in the case of <rather>. I cannot figure out what the triggering condition is, perhaps labialized if followed by a non-low vowel.
[ɻɑðɚ] or perhaps better transcribed as [ɻɑðɻ̩]. Not sure if those are actually different or not.
A lot of my /ɻ/s are also strongly labialized, as in <red>, but I feel like it is not in the case of <rather>. I cannot figure out what the triggering condition is, perhaps labialized if followed by a non-low vowel.
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[ɻʷæ̞ðɚ] ~ [ɻʷaðɚ]
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You might call that a strongly labialised /r/
You might call that a strongly labialised /r/
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How do you pronounce "ne", e.g. in "thou ne art"?
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I don't. Is it Middle English or something? What does it even mean/is its gramatical function?
My instinct tells me /ni:/, second (outside) option: /nej/. Me: [nɪi̯ ~ nɛɪ̯ ]
Edit: actually, my first instinct was a Monty Python style "Ni!"
My instinct tells me /ni:/, second (outside) option: /nej/. Me: [nɪi̯ ~ nɛɪ̯ ]
Edit: actually, my first instinct was a Monty Python style "Ni!"
It was about time I changed this.
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My first instinct was /ˈneː/ as well, because whether such a sentence is genuinely Middle English or not, it looks it and so I automatically default to pre-GVS values.
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If it had survived to Modern English I imagine it'd be like 'the', i.e. with a schwa normally but /i/ before vowels.
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you n'are
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product /ɑ/
productive /ə/
productivity /oː/
What about you lot?
productive /ə/
productivity /oː/
What about you lot?
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Same as you, but 'productivity' is like 'product'.
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product /ɒ/
productive /ə/
productivity /ɒ/
and...
produce (v) /ə/
produce (n) /ɒ/
ˈpʰʋ͡ɹʷˠɒ.dɐkt
pʰʋ͡ɹʷˠə.ˈdɐk.tɪ̈v
ˌpʰʋ͡ɹʷˠɒ.dɐk.ˈtɪ.vɪ̈.tɪɨ̯
pʰʋ͡ɹʷˠə.ˈd͡ʒjʏʉ̯s
ˈpʰʋ͡ɹʷˠɒ.d͡ʒjʏʉ̯s
productive /ə/
productivity /ɒ/
and...
produce (v) /ə/
produce (n) /ɒ/
ˈpʰʋ͡ɹʷˠɒ.dɐkt
pʰʋ͡ɹʷˠə.ˈdɐk.tɪ̈v
ˌpʰʋ͡ɹʷˠɒ.dɐk.ˈtɪ.vɪ̈.tɪɨ̯
pʰʋ͡ɹʷˠə.ˈd͡ʒjʏʉ̯s
ˈpʰʋ͡ɹʷˠɒ.d͡ʒjʏʉ̯s
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[ˈpʰɹɑɾʌkt]
[pʰɹəˈdʌktɪv]
[ˌpʰɹɑɾʌkˈtɪvɪɾi]
[pʰɹəˈdus]
[ˈpʰɹoʊ̯dus]
[pʰɹəˈdʌktɪv]
[ˌpʰɹɑɾʌkˈtɪvɪɾi]
[pʰɹəˈdus]
[ˈpʰɹoʊ̯dus]
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ˈprɑˌdʌkt
prəˈdʌktɨv
ˈprɑˌdʌkˈˈtɪvɨtɨ
also I was listening to a lecture a while back and heard [sɛkəntʰ] for 'second' so devoicing there is a thing
prəˈdʌktɨv
ˈprɑˌdʌkˈˈtɪvɨtɨ
also I was listening to a lecture a while back and heard [sɛkəntʰ] for 'second' so devoicing there is a thing
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[ˈpʰɞ̯˞ɔːɾ̠ɜkʰɾ̥]
[pʰɝˈɾ̠ʌkʰɾ̥ᵻv]
[ˌpʰɞ̯˞ɔːɾ̠ɜk̚ˈtʰɪvᵻɾi]
[pʰɝˈɾ̠ʉs]
[ˈpʰɞ̯˞ɵʊ̯ˌ̠ɾ̠ʉs]
[ˈsɛkʰᵻn̥]
[pʰɝˈɾ̠ʌkʰɾ̥ᵻv]
[ˌpʰɞ̯˞ɔːɾ̠ɜk̚ˈtʰɪvᵻɾi]
[pʰɝˈɾ̠ʉs]
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