Phonological Gain

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Nortaneous
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Re: Phonological Gain

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Theta wrote:For the record, initial nasals were present at one time but merged with the corresponding voiced plosives (m > b and n > d)
Isn't this currently happening in Korean?
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nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
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Re: Phonological Gain

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Nortaneous wrote:
Theta wrote:For the record, initial nasals were present at one time but merged with the corresponding voiced plosives (m > b and n > d)
Isn't this currently happening in Korean?
Not that I've ever heard. Final plosives merge with nasals, but only by regressive assimilation to [+nasal] segments.

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Re: Phonological Gain

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Japanese is said to have borrowed /-j-/ and /-w-/ under the influence of Old/Middle Chinese loans. I mean Japanese, originally with only a syllable structure (C)V, C being absent only possible at the beginning of morphemes, borrowed the syllable structure CjV and KwV, K being restricted to velars. Apparently those loans also introduced the word-level syllable structure VV, that is, two continuous vowels in one single morpheme (in this sense you could also say that it borrowed long vowels but Japanese is mora-based so the concept might not apply). Also it originally had /r/ and voiced consonants but they could not appear at the beginning of words, and the loans ended these restrictions. I'm not sure if it borrowed syllabic /n/ or developed it by itself. I think I've heard people talking about Japanese borrowing nasalized vowels (corresponding to Middle Chinese -ng) and subsequently losing it centuries later but I never saw resources confirming this.
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Tone: Chao's notation.
Apical vowels: [ɿ]≈[z̞̩], [ʅ]≈[ɻ̞̩], [ʮ]≈[z̞̩ʷ], [ʯ]≈[ɻ̞̩ʷ].
Vowels: [ᴇ]=Mid front unrounded, [ᴀ]=Open central unrounded, [ⱺ]=Mid back rounded, [ⱻ]=Mid back unrounded.

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