What language is this song in?

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What language is this song in?

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Battle of Lepanto from the Europa Universalis IV DLC 'Guns, Drums, and Steel'.

Also, can I get a transcription of the lyrics and a translation and such, as well? I can't find anything via google.
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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Re: What language is this song in?

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It sounds Greek to me. And since the battle of Lepanto took place in Greek waters, that seems reasonable.
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Re: What language is this song in?

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Yeah, I was figuring that it was probably Greek, what with all the [st] and [x].
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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Re: What language is this song in?

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But I think I can make out a few 'sh' - maybe Albanian?

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Re: What language is this song in?

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In Standard Modern Greek, /x/ is pronounced [ç] before front vowels. Could that be what you're hearing?

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It's not Greek, says native speakers. There are some discussions in the Youtube comments and on Reddit but apparently the language is still a mystery. From what I've been able to find, these languages can be ruled out:
English
Greek
Turkish
Italian
Spanish
Latin
Chinese
Japanese
Hebrew
Arabic
German
Swedish, or any Scandinavian language
linguoboy wrote:In Standard Modern Greek, /x/ is pronounced [ç] before front vowels. Could that be what you're hearing?
In this case, the language is not actually Greek, but to my ears Greek /s/ often sound closer to [ʃ] than it does to Swedish or English /s/. Like most languages that only has one place of articulation for sibilants, the /s/ of Greek is more retracted – and apical I think – than its English or Swedish counterpart. Which makes a lot of sense phonetically, as Greek contrasts /θ/ and /s/ but not /s/ and /ʃ/.

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Valdeut wrote:It's not Greek, says native speakers. There are some discussions in the Youtube comments and on Reddit but apparently the language is still a mystery.
Could it be... a conlang, perchance? :)


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jal wrote:
Valdeut wrote:It's not Greek, says native speakers. There are some discussions in the Youtube comments and on Reddit but apparently the language is still a mystery.
Could it be... a conlang, perchance? :)
Yes, the idea has definitely crossed my mind. Or maybe not even a true conlang, it could just be foreign-sounding nonsense (is there a term for that sort of conlang-with-only-a-phonology?).

But there are still many natlangs to be ruled out of course.

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I don't think those are called conlangs.
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Valdeut wrote:it could just be foreign-sounding nonsense (is there a term for that sort of conlang-with-only-a-phonology?).
Yes.
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Dewrad wrote:
Valdeut wrote:it could just be foreign-sounding nonsense (is there a term for that sort of conlang-with-only-a-phonology?).
Yes.
Right, but what I was thinking of is really a special kind of gibberish, namely something that's made to give the impression of being a foreign language (for books, movies, video games, songs etc.), without going through the trouble of designing a grammar and vocabulary.

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Valdeut wrote:
Dewrad wrote:
Valdeut wrote:it could just be foreign-sounding nonsense (is there a term for that sort of conlang-with-only-a-phonology?).
Yes.
Right, but what I was thinking of is really a special kind of gibberish, namely something that's made to give the impression of being a foreign language (for books, movies, video games, songs etc.), without going through the trouble of designing a grammar and vocabulary.
I've heard the term "simlish" generalized for that sort of thing (modeled on the nonsense language from The Sims).
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What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?”

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The old vaudeville term for that is "double-talk"; Sid Caesar was a master of it.

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