Use of 'where' as a general clausal conjunction

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Use of 'where' as a general clausal conjunction

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I frequently hear people in my area using 'where' in such phrases as 'the kind of person where they're like blah blah blah' and 'guy where there's less sadness'. Do these sound grammatical to the other English speakers here?

Ascima mresa óscsma sáca psta numar cemea.
Cemea tae neasc ctá ms co ísbas Ascima.
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Longer examples please?

Also, where is your area, out of curiosity?
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Around Houston, Texas. The basic sense I'm getting is that 'where' kinda means the same as 'for whom' or 'with whom'. The following clause will often be independent, like 'it's a thing where I don't know what to do' or 'she's the kind person where she has no standards.

Ascima mresa óscsma sáca psta numar cemea.
Cemea tae neasc ctá ms co ísbas Ascima.
Carho. Carho. Carho. Carho. Carho. Carho. Carho.

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Sure, people around here (northern California) and back home (Colorado) use that all the time.

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But do they ever use it specifically for people or things and not settings? That's what I'm describing.

Ascima mresa óscsma sáca psta numar cemea.
Cemea tae neasc ctá ms co ísbas Ascima.
Carho. Carho. Carho. Carho. Carho. Carho. Carho.

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There's a close parallel to this in Breisgauer Alemannic (and other southern German dialects). The conjunction in question is wu (= Standard German wo). E.g.: "diä Frau, wu mer gwartet hän uf si" (lit. "the woman, where we waited have on her" = "the woman who we waited for").

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IIRC Modern Greek does the same with που 'that, where'

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There may be a bit of idiosyncracy to it, but I often find myself using parallel constructions with där in Swedish. No examples spring to mind.
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They sound grammatical to me.

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That and 'what', yes. I don't use either but I've heard both.
كان يا ما كان / يا صمت العشية / قمري هاجر في الصبح بعيدا / في العيون العسلية

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No, I don't hear "where" used for people. It sounds ungrammatical to me.

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