Alt Codes

Mr. Z · Post by **Mr. Z** » Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 am

There seem to be tons of scripts on alt codes, but I can't find a list of all of them, or at least the general locations of different scripts. Can anyone give me that?

Mecislau · Post by **Mecislau** » Mon May 30, 2011 10:42 am

<unhelpful>learn to not use alt codes</unhelpful>

Mr. Z · Post by **Mr. Z** » Mon May 30, 2011 10:45 am

Okay. What else can I use?

Aurora Rossa · Post by **Aurora Rossa** » Mon May 30, 2011 10:48 am

Mecislau wrote:<unhelpful>learn to not use alt codes</unhelpful>

What's wrong with alt codes? I find them incredibly useful and know of no alternatives except the inconvenient character map.

Ser · Post by **Ser** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:09 am

Seriously, don't learn Alt codes if your intentions are to learn an entire script in that. I find them useful for particular accented letters (‹ñ, ç...›), but they aren't exactly an efficient way to type a script... Plus, very few (Windows) programs support them above Alt + 255. Word, Powerpoint, MSN Messenger. But not Excel, or Internet browsers, let alone most smaller applications.

Anyway, you can check them out by downloading Babelmap (a powerful expansion of Windows's shitty default character map), finding the Unicode point whose Alt code you want to know, clicking on it and selecting the "NCR (dec)" view in the Edit Buffer.

Mr. Z · Post by **Mr. Z** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:15 am

Well, I'd love to use something else, but I don't know what. Any suggestions?

Ser · Post by **Ser** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:18 am

What scripts in particular? Windows comes with quite a few IMEs already: Chinese, Oriya, Tamil, Arabic...

Mr. Z · Post by **Mr. Z** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:27 am

I want a convenient way to write Kanji, Kana, Arabic script and maybe IPA. I don't want to install too many things, if that's possible.

finlay · Post by **finlay** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:34 am

Depending on what version of windows you have, it should come with that capability already. Don't even think about trying to learn alt-codes for kanji. lolololol!

Mr. Z · Post by **Mr. Z** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:43 am

So how do I use them?

treskro · Post by **treskro** » Mon May 30, 2011 12:19 pm

Control Panel > Language/Keyboard options > Install whatever language you need.

Aurora Rossa · Post by **Aurora Rossa** » Mon May 30, 2011 12:25 pm

finlay wrote:Depending on what version of windows you have, it should come with that capability already. Don't even think about trying to learn alt-codes for kanji. lolololol!

That would be awesome, in a stupid sort of way. It would also presumably require you to know kanji in the first place. Of course, if you can memorize several thousand kanji, their meanings, and pronunciation, adding alt codes to that seems like a minor problem.

Ser · Post by **Ser** » Mon May 30, 2011 8:14 pm

Learning Chinese characters with ALT CODES!? And I thought the Four Corners IME was rather crazy already...

makvas · Post by **makvas** » Mon May 30, 2011 8:34 pm

Alt-codes? Windows users are odd

tatapyranga · Post by **tatapyranga** » Mon May 30, 2011 9:07 pm

How to use the United States-International keyboard layout in Windows 7, in Windows Vista, and in Windows XP.

Mecislau · Post by **Mecislau** » Mon May 30, 2011 9:21 pm

Mr. Z wrote:I want a convenient way to write Kanji, Kana, Arabic script and maybe IPA. I don't want to install too many things, if that's possible.

Just turn on new keyboard layouts or make a custom one. From my English keyboard I can type all of Basic Latin, Latin-1, and Latin Extended-A, and Latin Extended-Additional, as well as most of Latin Extended-B and most IPA characters. And I know how to get at most accented characters even if I haven't ever used them before. (That said, I should modify this layout at some point when I have time to add the rest of IPA)

From my Cyrillic keyboard, I can type any character in Basic Cyrillic, Cyrillic Supplement, Cyrillic Extended-A and Cyrillic Extended-B.

I don't understand why anyone would use alt-codes if they were willing to take a bit of time to learn about custom keyboard layouts, which end up being so much more efficient and customizable.

EDIT: And if all you're doing is trying to add scripts like Kanji/Kana/Arabic, you don't even need a custom layout—just use a standard one that's probably already available on your system.

Ser · Post by **Ser** » Mon May 30, 2011 10:20 pm

Zoris wrote:Alt-codes? Windows users are odd

It'd be nice if Windows users were educated about the existence of all the other keyboard layouts readily (or in WinXP, somewhat readily) available, yes.

And if Microsoft finally developed a character map that weren't stuck in Unicode 3.0.

(We've got Babelmap for that at least. ♥)

Mecislau wrote:I don't understand why anyone would use alt-codes if they were willing to take a bit of time to learn about custom keyboard layouts, which end up being so much more efficient and customizable.

I do know quite a bit about keyboard layouts but I still find alt-codes useful for those few situations where I can't access Spanish diactritics and the ‹ñ›.

I can hardly see myself writing something in Arabic using Alt codes though.

Aurora Rossa · Post by **Aurora Rossa** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:41 am

@Mr Z: If you don't know what the Chinese saying means, why do you have it in your signature?

Ser · Post by **Ser** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:09 am

Eddy wrote:@Mr Z: If you don't know what the Chinese saying means, why do you have it in your signature?

Because it's all made-up words, non-sensical, à la *hadamashu.

Mr. Z · Post by **Mr. Z** » Tue May 31, 2011 4:57 am

Thanks for the help

@Eddy: Serafín is right.

masako · Post by **masako** » Tue May 31, 2011 5:35 am

http://www.omniglot.com/mlcomputing/diacrits_win.htm

Aurora Rossa · Post by **Aurora Rossa** » Tue May 31, 2011 11:43 am

Mr. Z wrote:Thanks for the help
@Eddy: Serafín is right.

Oh.

Jipí · Post by **Jipí** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:15 pm

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey

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