Very detailed map of the North American dialects of English

[Ran]

Has this been posted here before?

http://aschmann.net/AmEng/

[finlay]

I haven't seen it before. Cool!

[Aurora Rossa]

I have seen it. So much data to digest though.

[Drydic]

Wowzers. :pulls helicopter blades out of his hat and flies off:

[TaylorS]

WOOOOW

[faiuwle]

I think I saw that one before, and remember being skeptical of it, as I grew up in Tucson and can't remember anyone with a pin/pen merger who didn't also have a clearly non-local accent.

[Bristel]

Seattle for me (and much of the western Pacific Northwest) has a slight accent shift over the rest of the west, but very minimally, and is probably disappearing.

The Ballard and Oak Harbor areas supposedly have a very Scandinavian influenced accent, but I haven't experienced that firsthand.

[Maulrus]

Interesting that he says that New Orleans has the most unusual dialects. I live there, and it really is remarkable how different we all sound. I come from the uptown area and I doubt that anybody would be able to tell I was raised in the South without knowing, but I have a few friends that really do sound quite Southern.

[Ser]

Does much of the South really have [eU] for GOAT?

[Nortaneous]

well, [EU]

[Yiuel Raumbesrairc]

Canadian English as one. Pretty much fail.

[spats]

well, [EU]

In parts. North Carolina, definitely.

The nucleus is a bit more central in other places, but still more fronted than, say in British English.

[AnTeallach]

well, [EU]

In parts. North Carolina, definitely.

The nucleus is a bit more central in other places, but still more fronted than, say in British English.

Um, British English has quite a lot of variation in this vowel, perhaps even more than American English, since among other things we have fronted monophthongs (Hull), diphthongs with fronted offglides (Estuary) and centring diphthongs (Geordie).

(If you meant "RP", you should have said so. But even RP has a fair amount of variation on this point.)

[spats]

well, [EU]

In parts. North Carolina, definitely.

The nucleus is a bit more central in other places, but still more fronted than, say in British English.

Um, British English has quite a lot of variation in this vowel, perhaps even more than American English, since among other things we have fronted monophthongs (Hull), diphthongs with fronted offglides (Estuary) and centring diphthongs (Geordie).

(If you meant "RP", you should have said so. But even RP has a fair amount of variation on this point.)

Yeah, meant RP. Oops.

[Ossicone]

'On' doesn't rhyme with 'Don' or 'Dawn.'

[Shrdlu]

'On' doesn't rhyme with 'Don' or 'Dawn.'

What dialect do you speak?. "On" rhymes with "don" for me nomatter what I do.

[Ossicone]

I'm in Maryland. I would Atlantic Midland according to the map.

[finlay]

Canadian English as one. Pretty much fail.

Well, it is pretty homogeneous compared to the US. Besides, it's not quite one; there are the atlantic provinces explicitly marked as separate, and you see those other lines crisscrossing it (there's a brown one surrounding the prairie provinces)? Isoglosses.

[Ran]

Canadian English as one. Pretty much fail.

Well, it is pretty homogeneous compared to the US. Besides, it's not quite one; there are the atlantic provinces explicitly marked as separate, and you see those other lines crisscrossing it (there's a brown one surrounding the prairie provinces)? Isoglosses.

as the author states, the map is a "hobby" and is based on YouTube clips (or so it appears), not rigorous research. for example, the Maritimes are certainly more complex than indicated, but that's not on the map due to a lack of sources. that being said, it also means that you can email your suggestions to the author (or send in a recording to prove your point).

i'm especially intrigued by the author's claim that Francophone Quebeckers who speak accentless GA lack the Canadian Raising! Is this true for Anglophone Quebeckers as well?

[Nortaneous]

'On' doesn't rhyme with 'Don' or 'Dawn.'

what do you have, [uə̯n]?

[Ossicone]

Ugh I don't know. It's not a diphthong though. Possibly just /ɔ/ with some raising.
I'm very confused as to what it is but they definitely cannot be interchanged. >_>

[Yiuel Raumbesrairc]

i'm especially intrigued by the author's claim that Francophone Quebeckers who speak accentless GA lack the Canadian Raising! Is this true for Anglophone Quebeckers as well?

I'm accentless when speaking GA and I lack the Canadian Raising. US TV for the win.

[finlay]

Ugh I don't know. It's not a diphthong though. Possibly just /ɔ/ with some raising.
I'm very confused as to what it is but they definitely cannot be interchanged. >_>

Could it just be a normally-unstressed [ən] that you're thinking of?

[Ossicone]

I don't think so because it's round. It might be something gross like ɑ/ɒ/ɔ.
When I get the time I'm going to record it. I'm not very good at judging myself.

[Drydic]

When I first looked at the map, the whole on/Don/Dawn thing made me o_O. Namely that they weren't all homophonous. Then I realized it was probably the cot/caught merger for Don/Dawn. How anyone would distinguish on and Don and Dawn is...unclear.

Canadian English as one. Pretty much fail.

Then help him out. Find some yt links with clear histories, that is, where the speaker is from/lives now (since you say your own accent wouldn't count or something).