Demonyms for staters

[Jipí]

Sachsen-Anhalter

Sachsen-Anhalter: 84.5 KGhits
Sachsen-Anhaltiner: 220 KGhits

Personally, I only know Sachsen-Anhaltiner.

[finlay]

Who needs demonyms? We get by fine without one in Edinburgh.

Edinburghensian, finlay.

People don't actually use or know about that, though. I certainly don't. It sounds like a "learned" borrowing from Latin or something to fill a supposed gap. Also, it feels wrong because it requires you to pronounce it with /bərg/ rather than /bʌrə/ or /brə/ or whatever that final syllable is.

[Astraios]

My family's always used Edinbrese (unsure how it'd be spelt).

[finlay]

"Edinburgh people", "people from Edinburgh".

[MisterBernie]

E-cuppers?

[Bob Johnson]

Edinburgher. Pronounced like Edinburgh, optionally with an extra /r/ at the end.

[finlay]

It sounds sensible at first, but the burgh in Edinburgh isn't pronounced like the burgh in Pittsburgh or the burg in Hamburg. I've only ever heard "Edinburger" sarcastically.

[Travis B.]

It sounds sensible at first, but the burgh in Edinburgh isn't pronounced like the burgh in Pittsburgh or the burg in Hamburg. I've only ever heard "Edinburger" sarcastically.

To Americans it is, mind you, hence its sounding sensible to them...

[Bob Johnson]

No no, not like hamburger, [ɛdɪnbʌɻɚ] (substitute your particular /r/ which I forgot what it is)

This is a silly thread.

[Astraios]

That would come out as /ɛdɪmbɹəɹə/, though, which just sounds like a mispronunciation of Edinburgh.

[Travis B.]

I'd still pronounce Edinburgher [ˈɜːɾɨ̃ːnˌb̥ʁ̩ˤːɡʁ̩ˤ(ː)]~[ˈɜ̃̂ːɨ̯̃nˌb̥ʁ̩ˤːɡʁ̩ˤ(ː)], as I pronounce Edinburgh [ˈɜːɾɨ̃ːnˌb̥ʁ̩ˤːɡ̊]~[ˈɜ̃̂ːɨ̯̃nˌb̥ʁ̩ˤːɡ̊]....

[finlay]

It's a) difficult to pronounce (I tend to go a bit non-rhotic when too many /r/s come next each other, for one thing, making it undistinguishable from Edinburgh) and b) impossible to spell. More importantly, c) it's not actually used by anyone. The problem is, people sometimes "posit" one, like nancy did, but they invariably sound wrong and don't catch on.

I have a slight tendency to think "Edinburran" as in /ɛdɪnbʌrən/, which would be regular from the point of view of adding /n/ to something ending in /ə/ or <a>. But again, nobody uses it and if you did make the regularization it would invariably be accompanied by 15 minutes of inward reflection as we wonder what the fuck the demonym is actually meant to be anyway, before just going back to "people from Edinburgh". Or "East-coasters"; although technically that's a larger area, it's usually invoked when comparing to Glaswegians or West-coasters.

Anyway, Travis, you are pronouncing "Edinburgh" wrong in that case. It doesn't have /g/.

[Izambri]

I see your states and raise you British denonyms.

I love it when a demonym has an obscure relationship to the corresponding toponym, particularly when some idiosyncratic Latinisation is involved, as with Cantabrigian or Regiomontano. It saddens me not to have more of these in the states. Imagine what a hard-on it would give Viktor to be a Districtensian!

Oh, beautiful names. That reminds me of an old Spanish-Latin dictionary I had (or still have but it's lost in my dad's book cemetery) with two appendixes: one for the case system and declensions, and another one, surprisingly, with a complete list of all the catholic dioceses in the world. It was fun finding names such as Neo-Eboracensis (New York), Sancti Ludovici (Sant Louis), Vashingtonensis (Washington), Ludovicopolitana (Louisville), Milvauchiensis (Milwaukee), Novarcensis (Newark), Novae Aureliae (New Orleans), Angelorum (Los Angeles)...

[linguoboy]

Who needs demonyms? We get by fine without one in Edinburgh.

Edinburghensian, finlay.

"Edinbourgeois", a least for the middle classes.

A lot of those diocese names hurt my eyes, Izo, none more than Milvauchiensis. (Wherefore ch?) But I was thrilled to discover Sancti Ludovici on my dad's diploma. I was very sad to find out when I was a bit older that the city is not called "Sankt-Ludwig" in German or "San Luis Rey" in Spanish.

[Cathbad]

Slovene urban demonyms are usually formed with the suffix -čan (e.g. Ljubljančan, Mariborčan, Novomeščan...), which AFAIK has no function other than forming demonyms. Sometimes the č is dropped (e.g. Izolan). Regional demonyms, however, are formed with -ec, as in Štajerec, Gorenjec, Dolenjec etc.

Interestingly, demonyms for people from outside Slovenia may be formed with the "city" suffix - e.g. Američan, Newyorčan, Berlinčan - or with the "region" suffix - Nemec 'German', Bavarec 'Bavarian', Kitajec 'Chinese' etc. There seem to be no "city" demonyms being formed with the "region" suffix though, at least not productively. (Although there is at least one within Slovenia: Blejec, meaning person from Bled.)

For females, you add -ka, which is added on to the -(č)an suffix (e.g. Newyorčanka), but replaces the -ec suffix (e.g. Bavarka).

As for intra-USA demonyms, Slovene would form most of them with -(č)an, which does seem to be the more productive of the two options. Newyorčan, Floridčan... although we would probably say Kalifornijec for "Californian". (I don't even dare to think what the lectors would think up for Massachusetts or Delaware, though. Or Rhode Island, God forbid!)

[Soap]

Ive heard "Massholes" for people from Massachusetts several times. Obviously hasnt caught on in Massachusetts itself, though.

[Izambri]

Who needs demonyms? We get by fine without one in Edinburgh.

Edinburghensian, finlay.

"Edinbourgeois", a least for the middle classes.

I read that as Eddybourgeois.

A lot of those diocese names hurt my eyes, Izo, none more than Milvauchiensis. (Wherefore ch?)

Hmmm, Maybe to assure the correct pronounciation of [k]? Since *Milvauciensis would be something like [milvaw'tʃensis] or [milvaw'sjensis]???

[Yiuel Raumbesrairc]

I see your states and raise you British denonyms.

I love it when a demonym has an obscure relationship to the corresponding toponym, particularly when some idiosyncratic Latinisation is involved, as with Cantabrigian or Regiomontano. It saddens me not to have more of these in the states. Imagine what a hard-on it would give Viktor to be a Districtensian!

Like Saint-Hyacinthe = Maskoutain?

Also :

Canadien, Britanno-colombien, Albertain, Saskatchewanais, Manitobain, Ontarien, Québécois, Néo-brunswickois, Néo-écossais, Princédouardien, Terreneuvien, Yukonnais, Ténnois, Nunavummiut

[Travis B.]

Who needs demonyms? We get by fine without one in Edinburgh.

Edinburghensian, finlay.

"Edinbourgeois", a least for the middle classes.

I read that as Eddybourgeois.

LOL.

A lot of those diocese names hurt my eyes, Izo, none more than Milvauchiensis. (Wherefore ch?)

Hmmm, Maybe to assure the correct pronounciation of [k]? Since *Milvauciensis would be something like [milvaw'tʃensis] or [milvaw'sjensis]???

I presume so; it's hard to see reason for the ch otherwise.

[Dewrad]

Venedotian, Demetian, Gwentian, Powysian, and people from Clwyd who are too insignificant to have a proper demonym in English. (I've always been somewhat disappointed that "Gwentian" and "Powysian" aren't "Silurian" and "Pagusensian".)

The Native terms are, of course, Gwyndyd, Dyfedwyr, Gwynhwyson, Powyswyr, and pobl o Glwyd sy'n rhy ddibwys i gael gwir enw yng Nghymraeg. Clwyd, in contradistinction to the other areas, isn't a real "region", just what's left over after the rest. Nobody identifies as a "Clwydian".

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Us Georgians don't have any super cool awesome demonyms ):

[Davoush]

Liverpool: Scousers (or Liverpudlians, although Liverpudlians usually say 'scousers' when referring to them/ourselves, I don't really like the word though...)

[Shm Jay]

Technically I’m an Ontarian, but no one ever uses the word in English.

[faiuwle]

"Arizonan" may be uninteresting, but people from Phoenix are actually called Phoenicians.

[Izambri]

Ontarioans and Phoenixaeans, then.