Nice sounding natlangs

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Asahi, give it a rest. As you said earlier, you "shall not quarrel with [Legion] any longer", so don't.

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Only three of each?? :/

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I love how most people seem to dislike French. :D

(Though it can sound nice occasionally, depending on who's saying what, I guess.)

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It sounds so faggy sometimes.
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Qwynegold wrote:Only three of each?? :/

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Mr. Z wrote:
Qwynegold wrote:Only three of each?? :/

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Qwynegold wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:
Qwynegold wrote:Only three of each?? :/

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אבל שפות שמיות הן אדירות! :o
何?
But Semitic languages are awesome!
Seriously, how can you not like them? The triconsonantal roots, the emphatic consonants, the complex synthetic structures, their beautiful scripts... They're practically perfect.
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I know this isn't the three for each category, but over time I expose myself to more languages

Like:

1. Hebrew (especially when it is sung)
2. German
3. I can't really say whether this is a language, but I really liked my high school Latin teacher's accent. He originally came from Haiti, and he occasionally rolled his r's. Now that I think of it maybe Haitian Creole? I'm not sure, because I don't remember him speaking in Creole.

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1. So far nothing.

Edit: Corrected the spelling of "originaly" to "originally". I'm usually anal about spelling mistakes too, and it seems that Internet Explorer (at least the version used in this library) does not have spell check.
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Mr Z wrote:Seriously, how can you not like them? The triconsonantal roots, the emphatic consonants, the complex synthetic structures, their beautiful scripts... They're practically perfect.
Because of the triconsonantal roots, the emphatic consonants, the scripts :P
Also, too throaty, and I say that as a Germanophone.
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MisterBernie wrote:Likes:
- Finnish
- Icelandic
- Kannada

Dislikes:
- Danish
- most American English
- Russian
Mr Z wrote:Seriously, how can you not like them? The triconsonantal roots, the emphatic consonants, the complex synthetic structures, their beautiful scripts... They're practically perfect.
Because of the triconsonantal roots, the emphatic consonants, the scripts :P
Also, too throaty, and I say that as a Germanophone.
Ok, the emphatic consonants may seem ugly to some people, and even though I believe the Arabic script is awesome, I understand why one might not like it so much... But the triconsonantal roots? They're just genius!
As for the throatiness thing: Modern Hebrew isn't throaty. It's just as throaty as German. And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
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Kereb wrote:they are nerdissimus inter nerdes
Oh god, we truly are nerdy. My first instinct was "why didn't he just use sunt and have it all in Latin?".
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Mr. Z wrote:
MisterBernie wrote:Likes:
- Finnish
- Icelandic
- Kannada

Dislikes:
- Danish
- most American English
- Russian
Mr Z wrote:Seriously, how can you not like them? The triconsonantal roots, the emphatic consonants, the complex synthetic structures, their beautiful scripts... They're practically perfect.
Because of the triconsonantal roots, the emphatic consonants, the scripts :P
Also, too throaty, and I say that as a Germanophone.
Ok, the emphatic consonants may seem ugly to some people, and even though I believe the Arabic script is awesome, I understand why one might not like it so much... But the triconsonantal roots? They're just genius!
As for the throatiness thing: Modern Hebrew isn't throaty. It's just as throaty as German. And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
Definitely. Nonconcatenative morphology is so in right now.

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Antirri wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:
MisterBernie wrote:Likes:
- Finnish
- Icelandic
- Kannada

Dislikes:
- Danish
- most American English
- Russian
Mr Z wrote:Seriously, how can you not like them? The triconsonantal roots, the emphatic consonants, the complex synthetic structures, their beautiful scripts... They're practically perfect.
Because of the triconsonantal roots, the emphatic consonants, the scripts :P
Also, too throaty, and I say that as a Germanophone.
Ok, the emphatic consonants may seem ugly to some people, and even though I believe the Arabic script is awesome, I understand why one might not like it so much... But the triconsonantal roots? They're just genius!
As for the throatiness thing: Modern Hebrew isn't throaty. It's just as throaty as German. And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
Definitely. Nonconcatenative morphology is so in right now.
Oh, aren't they? I like them best.
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Oh god, we truly are nerdy. My first instinct was "why didn't he just use sunt and have it all in Latin?".
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Mr. Z wrote:And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
Right that it's not very throaty, but wrong about the pharyngeals, for the standard dialect at least; it has /ħ/ with uvular and palatal allophones, and historic /ʕ/ which has changed into diphthongization.

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Astraios wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
Right that it's not very throaty, but wrong about the pharyngeals, for the standard dialect at least; it has /ħ/ with uvular and palatal allophones, and historic /ʕ/ which has changed into diphthongization.
Good, so even less pharyngeals. I remembered seeing /ħ/ and /ʕ/ in the orthography, but I guess they aren't pronounced anymore.
Maltese and Hebrew aren't throaty. That's 2 non-throaty Semitic standards.
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Kereb wrote:they are nerdissimus inter nerdes
Oh god, we truly are nerdy. My first instinct was "why didn't he just use sunt and have it all in Latin?".
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Mr. Z wrote:
Astraios wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
Right that it's not very throaty, but wrong about the pharyngeals, for the standard dialect at least; it has /ħ/ with uvular and palatal allophones, and historic /ʕ/ which has changed into diphthongization.
Good, so even less pharyngeals. I remembered seeing /ħ/ and /ʕ/ in the orthography, but I guess they aren't pronounced anymore.
Maltese and Hebrew aren't throaty. That's 2 non-throaty Semitic standards.
Amharic doesn't have any pharyngeals either, and its emphatics are ejectives, not pharyngealized pulmonic stops.

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Antirri wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:
Astraios wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
Right that it's not very throaty, but wrong about the pharyngeals, for the standard dialect at least; it has /ħ/ with uvular and palatal allophones, and historic /ʕ/ which has changed into diphthongization.
Good, so even less pharyngeals. I remembered seeing /ħ/ and /ʕ/ in the orthography, but I guess they aren't pronounced anymore.
Maltese and Hebrew aren't throaty. That's 2 non-throaty Semitic standards.
Amharic doesn't have any pharyngeals either, and its emphatics are ejectives, not pharyngealized pulmonic stops.
I see ejectives as throaty as well... But if Mister Bernie doesn't, then alright! That's 3 Semitic standards without pharyngeals, anyway.
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Kereb wrote:they are nerdissimus inter nerdes
Oh god, we truly are nerdy. My first instinct was "why didn't he just use sunt and have it all in Latin?".
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Mr. Z wrote:
Antirri wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:
Astraios wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
Right that it's not very throaty, but wrong about the pharyngeals, for the standard dialect at least; it has /ħ/ with uvular and palatal allophones, and historic /ʕ/ which has changed into diphthongization.
Good, so even less pharyngeals. I remembered seeing /ħ/ and /ʕ/ in the orthography, but I guess they aren't pronounced anymore.
Maltese and Hebrew aren't throaty. That's 2 non-throaty Semitic standards.
Amharic doesn't have any pharyngeals either, and its emphatics are ejectives, not pharyngealized pulmonic stops.
I see ejectives as throaty as well... But if Mister Bernie doesn't, then alright! That's 3 Semitic standards without pharyngeals, anyway.
Ejectives are as throaty as any other phoneme you make, because it's essentially just another configuration of the glottis alongside voiced and voiceless (but because you're closing the glottis entirely, it is labelled non-pulmonic, because the sound it makes does not come from your lungs). Your primary articulator is still oral.

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finlay wrote:Ejectives are as throaty as any other phoneme you make, because it's essentially just another configuration of the glottis alongside voiced and voiceless (but because you're closing the glottis entirely, it is labelled non-pulmonic, because the sound it makes does not come from your lungs). Your primary articulator is still oral.
But it sounds throaty, at least to me.
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Kereb wrote:they are nerdissimus inter nerdes
Oh god, we truly are nerdy. My first instinct was "why didn't he just use sunt and have it all in Latin?".
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Occitano-Romance (Occitan + Catalan) And sexy Liz agrees!
Boston accent Ben Affleck's Bostonian
Ryukyuan languages Learn Okinawan!

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American English (with rhotic and nasalized vowels)
Castilian ([x] - [θ] Spanish)
Parisian French
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Izambri wrote:I'm fond of
Boston accent Ben Affleck's Bostonian
DIE :evil:

Boston accents are the worst of the AmE varieties :evil:

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Mr. Z wrote:
Astraios wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
Right that it's not very throaty, but wrong about the pharyngeals, for the standard dialect at least; it has /ħ/ with uvular and palatal allophones, and historic /ʕ/ which has changed into diphthongization.
Good, so even less pharyngeals. I remembered seeing /ħ/ and /ʕ/ in the orthography, but I guess they aren't pronounced anymore.
Maltese and Hebrew aren't throaty. That's 2 non-throaty Semitic standards.
No, Hebrew has that voiceless uvular trill everywhere.
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Nortaneous wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:
Astraios wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:And Maltese isn't very throaty either, AFAIK, except for the pharyngeals, but those are only two... (right?)
Right that it's not very throaty, but wrong about the pharyngeals, for the standard dialect at least; it has /ħ/ with uvular and palatal allophones, and historic /ʕ/ which has changed into diphthongization.
Good, so even less pharyngeals. I remembered seeing /ħ/ and /ʕ/ in the orthography, but I guess they aren't pronounced anymore.
Maltese and Hebrew aren't throaty. That's 2 non-throaty Semitic standards.
No, Hebrew has that voiceless uvular trill everywhere.
It's a voiced uvular approximant. Sounds even less throaty than European langs. And besides, we're not taking English throatiness as the point of reference; you guys don't even have /x/.
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Hebrew sounds all /haʁaʃaχaʃaʁahaʃaʁim/ to me

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