The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

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I've noticed in American English, and in my idiolect, /θ/ and /ð/ often are [t̪] at the beginnings of words in informal speech. It's never aspirated or voiced so far as I can tell. Can anyone confirm?

For me, they're always fricatives, and in informal speech the voiced one tends to go the opposite way and get more approximanty.

[finlay]

BTW, for those like Rin who've copied the original question from the OP, you should perhaps note that it's actually restaurateur and not restauranteur. It's not a common enough word for people to know, though.

[AnTeallach]

My /θ/ and /ð/ are frequently [tθ] and [dð]. The one time I can think of right now where /θ/ becomes [t̪] is in the word "birthday", which is [bəɹ.t̪eɪ]...in fact, in this case, it might actually be an interdental stop rather than a dental one

I often pronounce word-initial /ð/ as [dð], and I've noticed other British speakers doing the same. I think the only other case where either can become an affricate is after /n/.

[TaylorS]

I have [t̪eːŋʔk]

[Wattmann]

How would you people pronounce the following Finnish verbs in your own languages and dialects, not specifically Finnish:

-synnyttäköön
-harhaanjohtakoon
-arkipäiväistäköön

They're all second-person singular imperatives.

IML I'd say them something close to:

[synytɛkʲøʏn]
[(ɦ)ɑrɦaːnʲjohtɑkoun]
[ɑrkʲipɛivɛistɛkøʏn]

The [ɛ]s are partially a concious effort.

You all?

[Bob Johnson]

How would you people pronounce the following Finnish verbs in your own languages and dialects, not specifically Finnish:

You mean like an American tourist?
[ˌsɪ.nəˈtæ.kɑːn] and the rest are similar

They're all second-person singular imperatives.

nope

also german has [ɦ]?

[Wattmann]

How would you people pronounce the following Finnish verbs in your own languages and dialects, not specifically Finnish:

You mean like an American tourist?
[ˌsɪ.nəˈtæ.kɑːn] and the rest are similar

Pretty much like a tourist.

They're all second-person singular imperatives.

nope

I believe they are - I took them off of Wiktionary

also german has [ɦ]?

IDK, why?

[prettydragoon]

They're all second-person singular imperatives.

nope

I believe they are - I took them off of Wiktionary

Would you believe third-person?

[Wattmann]

They're all second-person singular imperatives.

nope

I believe they are - I took them off of Wiktionary

Would you believe third-person?

I would, since I don't know crap about Finnish.

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How would you all say place'd (from 'place would')?

[Wattmann]

How would you all say place'd (from 'place would')?

[plɛɪsəd], I guess.

[finlay]

yeah, would contracts to [əd] except after a pronoun, where it becomes [d].

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I was just wondering, because the vowel there for me doesn't really sound like a schwa, more like [ɯ].

[Bob Johnson]

[ʊ~ə] i think

[Rin]

How do y'all pronounce "thank"? In my dialect, I've always said (and heard) [ðæŋk]

I think I have a vowel merger there, but the initial consonant is clearly [θ]. This sounds like a reception merger, if you can't hear the [θ]. What do you have for <thin thigh throw>?

[θɪn], [θaɪ], and [θɹɔʊ]. It's only "thank" that has [ð] for me instead of [θ].

[Lyra]

how do you all pronounce "always", "day" and "you done with that?"

For me it's:
['oʊwejs], [de:] and [jədʌnwɪðæ]

~Lyra

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[ʔɑwɛɪz] or [ʔɔwɛɪz] for always
[dɛɪ] for day
Approximately [jɵɾʌ̃nwɨðæʔ] for "You done with that?" The first vowel can vary a lot.

[Aurora Rossa]

how do you all pronounce "always", "day" and "you done with that?"

[ɑɫwez] [de:] [ɑr ju dən wɪθ ðæʔ]

[Bob Johnson]

<always> [ɔɫ.weɪz] -- /ɑ/ tends to get rounded before /l/
<day> [deɪ] -- boring. maybe it can get clipped to [de] in certain contexts?
<you done with that> [juˈdənʷw̃ɪˌðæʔ] -- fairly boring

Hm. This font is broken and puts the ̃ over the wrong character edit: only the edit box font

[ol bofosh]

always: [ɔwɛiz] or [ɔwɛjz]
day: [dɛi] or [dɛj]
you done with that: [jə dɐn wiðaʔ]

Bit unsure about [ɛi] and [ɛj].

[finlay]

we already did always.

day: [deː]~[dei]
you done with that: [j(ʏ)ˈtʌ̃wəðaʔ]

[Travis B.]

always : /ˈɒlwez/ > [ˈɒːwːeːs]
day : /ˈde/ > [ˈd̥e(ː)]
you done with that: /juˈdənwɪ̆dˌðɛt/ > [jʉːˈd̥ʌ̃ː(n)wɨd̥ˌd̥ɛʔ] or /jəˈdənwɪ̆dˌðɛt/ > [jəːˈd̥ʌ̃ː(n)wɨd̥ˌd̥ɛʔ] or /juˈdənwɪθˌðɛt/ > [jʉːˈd̥ʌ̃ː(n)wɨθˌθɛʔ] or /jəˈdənwɪθˌðɛt/ > [jəːˈd̥ʌ̃ː(n)wɨθˌθɛʔ]

[Nortaneous]

always: /ɔlwɨs/
day: /de/
you done with that: /jə dʌn wɪ(ð) ðæt/ [jɪ̆ˈdɜ̃wɵˌðæʔ] (not sure about the unstressed vowels)

[θɪn], [θaɪ], and [θɹɔʊ]. It's only "thank" that has [ð] for me instead of [θ].

What do you have in "think"? I hear that with [ð] sometimes.

[ol bofosh]

I was watching a docu about the gas giants and there was a bit that asked the scientists how do you pronounce Uranus? I was sitting on the settee with my gf and we were laughing like school children at "It's a long way to Uranus" and "We get to see Uranus in a new light" (God, I'm laughing about it even now).

For me it's [j@"r\ejn@s], which is almost exactly the same as "Your anus". There is a difference, but I think it's mostly in tone.

And while we're at it, how about Moscow?

["mQskow] or ["mQsgow]

I have trouble distinguishing between voiced and unaspirated after a consonant like that.

[Lyra]

Uranus: [jʊɹenəs]
Your anus: [jɔɹenəs]
Moscow: [mɔscoʊ]

~Lyra