The Mystery of the Bonking Jackals

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Whimemsz wrote:
Skomakar'n wrote:While I love diacritics, I'm pretty sure this particular word is never pronounced with two syllables in English.
You're not allowed to make claims about English.
You're right. I actually pronounce it like the IPA given too. <_> Sorry.
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And we've again proved the first law of ZBBdynamics - any thread regardless of initial content may spontaneously degrade into an English pronounciation thread.
I'd also like to know what the punch-line of this Egyptian jackal cartoon is...

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hwhatting wrote:And we've again proved the first law of ZBBdynamics - any thread regardless of initial content may spontaneously degrade into an English pronounciation thread.
I'd also like to know what the punch-line of this Egyptian jackal cartoon is...
I thought the rule was that any thread may degrade into a gay sex thread...

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sucaeyl wrote:
hwhatting wrote:And we've again proved the first law of ZBBdynamics - any thread regardless of initial content may spontaneously degrade into an English pronounciation thread.
I'd also like to know what the punch-line of this Egyptian jackal cartoon is...
I thought the rule was that any thread may degrade into a gay sex thread...
Happens much more rarely, in my experience.

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hwhatting wrote:
sucaeyl wrote:
hwhatting wrote:And we've again proved the first law of ZBBdynamics - any thread regardless of initial content may spontaneously degrade into an English pronounciation thread.
I'd also like to know what the punch-line of this Egyptian jackal cartoon is...
I thought the rule was that any thread may degrade into a gay sex thread...
Happens much more rarely, in my experience.
how do you guys pronounce 'gay sex' in your dialect?
I say [gEj sEks]

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gay sex: /ˈɡe ˈsɜks/ > [ˈɡ̊e ˈsɜ̟ʔks]
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Torco wrote:how do you guys pronounce 'gay sex' in your dialect?
I say [gEj sEks]
Probably either [gɜe̯ sɛks] or [geː sɛsk] depending whether I am using my native dialect or my adopted one.
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what? 0_o

gE ?

really? you don't have a [j] or a or a at the end of gay? I've never heard anyone speaking English saying [gE] for gay. are you sure you're not (not noticing) the final palatalization/raising ?

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No one said they say it [gE], what are you talking about? Anyway, people from the northern midwest at least *do* often have undiphthongized /e/ and /o/ -- it's kind of a diagnostic feature (cf. Fargospeak; also Sarah Palin who has the same accent like some other Alaskans)

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i've definitely heard [gE:] from somewhere up north.

[And I'm sure I've heard [ge:] as well, but I wouldn't immediately be able to tell]
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i have/am [ge:]

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Pthug wrote:i have/am [ge:]
Really? I always thought you were both gay and queer in the old-fashioned between-the-wars sense (merry and unusual, for those who are not aware of the ancient meanings of these words).

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For me, -ology is always /-ˈɒlədʒi/ and
Words with -philia and -phobia almost always have an "o" (or another vowel before it) so there is always a schwa immediately before the /f/ for me.
So I say /zʉː.ˈɔlədʒi/ and /zʉːəˈfiːliə/.

Without a schwa before the /f/, it feels to me like the first element is a common English word. (Compare ailurophobia, with a schwa, against cat phobia without the schwa.) My intuition is that /zʉːˈfiːliə/ (without the schwa) is a liking of zoos, although I suppose I would shift the stress to /ˈzʉːfiːliə/.

Also: [gæɪ sɛks]

And Jackal.PL.DEF.TOP, they have sex. Most animals do. Seeing that would just be an occasional sight in areas where jackals are common. Why not draw/paint it? A future society would probably look at our art and wonder what our funny obsession was with fruit, flowers and household objects sitting on tables. It's a genre called still-life. Maybe the ancients had a genre of art involving animals fucking.
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Imralu wrote: Maybe the ancients had a genre of art involving animals fucking.
Oh, those wacky ancients!

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Shm Jay wrote:
Imralu wrote: Maybe the ancients had a genre of art involving animals fucking.
Oh, those wacky ancients!
You missed a great opportunity, there, to say "those whacky ancients". I am disappointed in you.

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