The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

[Travis B.]

The only way I can see marking stress on the second syllables of those words coming about is if someone has secondary stress on those syllables, probably while speaking carefully, and then is confusing primary stress and secondary stress (i.e. perceiving them as the same) and based on that choosing to place primary stress on syllables that actually have secondary stress.

[*Ceresz]

The easiest way to settle this would be with a recording, even though I doubt it'll turn out to be favorable for Helios's transcriptions, at least in regard to the stress.

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How do you pronounce evil, get, jet and cat?
For me:
evil - [ˈiː.wə̃ɫ]
get - [ˈgʲɛt̚]
jet - [ˈʒʱɛt̚]
cat - [kʰeə̯t̚]

[Travis B.]

evil: /ˈivəl/ > [ˈiːvɯ̞(ː)]
get: /ˈɡɜt/ > [ˈɡ̊ɜʔ]
jet: /ˈdʒɜt/ > [ˈd̥ʒ̊ɜʔ]
cat: /ˈkɛt/ > [ˈkʰɛʔ]

[ol bofosh]

[quote="2-4"]How do you pronounce evil, get, jet and cat?

evil: ['ɪi.vəɫ]
get: [geʔ] or [gɛʲʔ], not sure of the difference.
jet: [d͡ʒɛʔ]
cat: [kʰæʔ]

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evil - [ivɤ̙]
get - [gɨt̚]
jet - [d͡ʒɛt̚]
cat - [kʰæt̚]

I'm really not sure what to transcribe my final /l/ as; I might have to make a recording and post it here since at least one of you guys has more expertise than me in these areas.

Also, what part of the world do you live in, 2-4?

[Lyra]

evil [i:və̃ɫ]
get [ge̝t̚]
jet [dʒet̚]
cat [kʰæt̚]

~Lyra

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Also, what part of the world do you live in, 2-4?

Croatia. Why do you ask?

because your pronunciations clearly aren't native.

[Ngohe]

<evil> /iːvɪl/ [ˈɪi̯vɫ̩ ~ ˈɪi̯vo ~ ˈɪi̯vɤ]
<get> /gɛt/ [gɛt ~ gɛt̚ ~ gɛʔ̚]
<jet> /ʤɛt/ [ʤɛt ~ ʤɛt̚ ~ ʤɛʔ̚]
<cat> /kæt/ [kʰæ̞t ~ kʰæ̞t̚ ~ kʰæ̞ʔ̚] (I don't know if I should transcribe the vowel [æ̞] or [a̝]; I may even have something like [a])

[communistplot]

evil - [i͡ɪ̯vəʊ̯]
get - [ɡʲɛʔ]
jet - [d͡ʒɛʔ]
cat - [kʲʰæʔ]

[ol bofosh]

iron

[ɐɪən]

There or there abouts. Dipthongs are difficult, tripthongs even more so. What I really want to know is, does anyone have an /r/ in this?

[communistplot]

iron

[ɐɪən]

There or there abouts. Dipthongs are difficult, tripthongs even more so. What I really want to know is, does anyone have an /r/ in this?

Let's add a few more metals to our collection, eh?

iron - [ajən ~ aɪ̯ən]
magnesium - [mæɡniɪ̯zjʊm]
copper - [kɔpə]
aluminum - [əluʊ̯mɪnʊm]
titanium - [taɪ̯teɪ̯njʊm]
gold - [ɡoʊ̯d̚]
silver - [sɪʊ̯və]

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iron

[ɐɪən]

There or there abouts. Dipthongs are difficult, tripthongs even more so. What I really want to know is, does anyone have an /r/ in this?

yeah, but it's /ai.ərn/ rather than say /ai.rɔn/.

[Lyra]

iron [aɪɹn]
magnesium [mæg̚'ni:zɪəɪəɪəɪəm]
copper [kɔpɹ]
aluminum [ælʊ:'mi:nɪəm]
titanium [tʰaɪ'tʰe:nɪəm]
gold [go̝:ld̚]
silver [sɪɫvɹ]

~Lyra

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iron - [a̟.ɹ̩n]
magnesium - [mægˈniziəm]
copper - [kʰapɹ̩]
aluminum - [əˈɫumɨnəm]
titanium - [tʰa̟tʰeniəm]
gold - [gɔːd]
silver - [sɨɤ̯vɹ̩]

All occurrences of [a̟] are in free variation with [aɪ].

[Travis B.]

iron: /ˈəe̯ərn/ > [ˈəe̯ʁ̩̃ˤ(ː)(n)]
magnesium: /mɛɡˈniziəm/ > [mɛːɡ̊ˈniːziːə̃(ː)m]~[mɛːɡ̊ˈniːzjə̃(ː)m]
copper: /ˈkapər/ > [ˈkʰab̥ʁ̩ˤ(ː)]
aluminum: /əˈlumɪnəm/ > [əːˈʟ̞ũːmɨ̃ːnə̃(ː)m]~[əːˈɰũːmɨ̃ːnə̃(ː)m]
titanium: /tae̯ˈteniəm/* > [tʰăĕ̯ˈtʰẽːniːə̃(ː)m]~[tʰăĕ̯ˈtʰẽːjːə̃(ː)m]
gold: /ˈɡold/ > [ˈɡ̊oːʊ̯d̥]
silver: /ˈsɪlvər/ > [ˈsɪːɯ̞̯vʁ̩ˤ(ː)]

* This word is very odd, because it "should" take /əe̯/ but it in fact takes /ae̯/. It might be due to probably being a "learned" word, but even then, such words typically take /əe̯/ in this position.

[Travis B.]

How do you pronounce Linux?

I have:

Linux: /ˈlɪnɪks/ > [ˈʟ̞ɪ̃ːnɨʔks̻]~[ˈɰɪ̃ːnɨʔks̻]~[ˈʟ̞ɪ̃̂ːɨ̯̃ʔks̻]~[ˈɰɪ̃̂ːɨ̯̃ʔks̻]

(This is inspired by hearing people saying something like [ˈlaɪ̯nəʔks] multiple times over the phone.)

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I say it [ˈɫɨnɨks]

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/lɪnəks/

[Christopher Schröder]

Iron ['ɑɪ̯.əɹn]
Magnesium [mæg'niː.zi̯əm]
Copper ['kʰɑp.əɹ]
Aluminum [ə'lju.mɨn.əm]
Titanium [tʰaɪ'tei̯.ni̯əm]
Gold [gou̯ld]
Silver ['sɪɫ.vəɹ]

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Linux ['lɪn.ɨks]

[ol bofosh]

I've been looking through lexical sets for my vowels and looked at bits of information on Wiki about Southern English accents/London/Estuary, and I've learnt just how mistaken I have been on some pronunciation. So from now on there'll be more accurate IPA. Not accurate but at least better than before.

That'll teach me to apply RP to my accent. Or maybe not, I am learning.

[Lyra]

How do you pronounce:
Flower
Flour
Flier
Flayer*
Flair
Floor
Flora

*as in FLAYING MACHINE OF DEATH.
For me it's:
[flawɚ]
[flaɚ]
[flaɪɚ]
[fleɪɚ]
[fle:ɹ]
[flo:ɹ]
[floɹə]

~Lyra

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flower~flour : [flawɚ]
flier: [flɑjɚ]
flayer~flair : [fle(j)ɚ]
floor: [flo(w)ɚ]
flora: [floːɻɐ]

maybe it's dark L but whatever. definitely no difference between those pairs.

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Flower~flour [flæwɹ̩]
Flier [flajɹ̩]
Flayer [flɛjɹ̩]
Flair [flɛɹ]
Floor [flɔɹ]
Flora [flɔɹə]