Lol I've been pronouncing 'yup' with a final glottal stop for like 4-5 years. Cockney much?GrinningManiac wrote:I realised recently I do a couple of odd things.
The first one is one I've gotten from my Dad and his Dundonian accent and I've had it all my life - I pronounce Stupid as [ʃ'tʃʲu:pɪd] or "SHCHYOO-pid"
In the last month I've started pronouncing Okay, formally [oʊkeɪ], as [ə'xeɪ:] or "Uh-chae"
I do this a few other times but I can't remember what words I was saying. My accent is warping into some kind of weird x-filled Welsh or Scouse accent. Help!
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Yup has an unreleased obstruent at the end for me as well, it's not glottal though like the unreleased forms of my /t/ & /k/.meltman wrote:Lol I've been pronouncing 'yup' with a final glottal stop for like 4-5 years. Cockney much?GrinningManiac wrote:I realised recently I do a couple of odd things.
The first one is one I've gotten from my Dad and his Dundonian accent and I've had it all my life - I pronounce Stupid as [ʃ'tʃʲu:pɪd] or "SHCHYOO-pid"
In the last month I've started pronouncing Okay, formally [oʊkeɪ], as [ə'xeɪ:] or "Uh-chae"
I do this a few other times but I can't remember what words I was saying. My accent is warping into some kind of weird x-filled Welsh or Scouse accent. Help!
As for the others:
honaker [hɔ.ˈnɪ.kə]
oreɡon [ɔ.ʋɛ.ɡn̥]
oreɡano [ə.ʋe͡ɪ̯.ɡə.no͡ʊ̯]
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felafel
I've only heard American "felOfel, or the Spanish version. So I say: [fə.ˈlæ.fəɫ] or [fə.ˈlæ.fəʊ].
I've only heard American "felOfel, or the Spanish version. So I say: [fə.ˈlæ.fəɫ] or [fə.ˈlæ.fəʊ].
It was about time I changed this.
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felafel: /fəˈlafəl/ > [fəːˈʟ̞afɯ̞(ː)]~[fəːˈɰafɯ̞(ː)]
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.
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Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
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Oregon [ˈɔɹɪɡn̩]
oregano [ɔɹɪˈɡaːnoʷ]
falafel [fəˈlafl̩]
But I hardly ever say these American-flavoured words.
oregano [ɔɹɪˈɡaːnoʷ]
falafel [fəˈlafl̩]
But I hardly ever say these American-flavoured words.
Low Pr. kalbeken < Lith. kalbėti
Lith. sūris = cheese, Fr. souris = mouse... o_O
Lith. sūris = cheese, Fr. souris = mouse... o_O
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I didn't know Jonathon Ross was on the ZBB.Caleone wrote: honaker [hɔ.ˈnɪ.kə]
oreɡon [ɔ.ʋɛ.ɡn̥]
oreɡano [ə.ʋe͡ɪ̯.ɡə.no͡ʊ̯]
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I think it's:
Oregon ['ɔɹɛg(ə)n/]
oregano [ɔɹɛ'gaːno(ʊ)]
falafel [fə'ɫaf(ə)ɫ]
...for me at least...
Oregon ['ɔɹɛg(ə)n/]
oregano [ɔɹɛ'gaːno(ʊ)]
falafel [fə'ɫaf(ə)ɫ]
...for me at least...
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oregano is stressed on the third syllable in BrE, but the second in AmE, yes.
before we knew the 'correct' or 'normal' way of saying 'falafel', ie /fəˈlafəl/, in my family we used to say something like /ˈfalaˌfɛl/. i think my dad might still say it like that, and at one point i had to correct him because it started bothering me.
anyway i guess
[ˈoːɹʷəgɒn]
[ɒɹəˈga(ː)no(ʊ)]
[fəˈɫafu]
before we knew the 'correct' or 'normal' way of saying 'falafel', ie /fəˈlafəl/, in my family we used to say something like /ˈfalaˌfɛl/. i think my dad might still say it like that, and at one point i had to correct him because it started bothering me.
anyway i guess
[ˈoːɹʷəgɒn]
[ɒɹəˈga(ː)no(ʊ)]
[fəˈɫafu]
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Donkey--LOT, CLOTH, or STRUT?
(CLOTH for me, but last night I noticed that Boston-raised Louis CK has the LOT vowel. One of my grade school teachers had STRUT and we mocked her for it.)
(CLOTH for me, but last night I noticed that Boston-raised Louis CK has the LOT vowel. One of my grade school teachers had STRUT and we mocked her for it.)
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For me, donkey, lot and cloth are all [ɔ] (except cloth is [ɔ:] possibly with a schwa offglide); strut is between [ə] and [ɞ].linguoboy wrote:Donkey--LOT, CLOTH, or STRUT?
(CLOTH for me, but last night I noticed that Boston-raised Louis CK has the LOT vowel. One of my grade school teachers had STRUT and we mocked her for it.)
Low Pr. kalbeken < Lith. kalbėti
Lith. sūris = cheese, Fr. souris = mouse... o_O
Lith. sūris = cheese, Fr. souris = mouse... o_O
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"Donkey, lot and cloth" have an [ɔ] sound, but "strut" is closer to [ɑ] or [ɐ], for me...Rekettye wrote:For me, donkey, lot and cloth are all [ɔ] (except cloth is [ɔ:] possibly with a schwa offglide); strut is between [ə] and [ɞ].linguoboy wrote:Donkey--LOT, CLOTH, or STRUT?
(CLOTH for me, but last night I noticed that Boston-raised Louis CK has the LOT vowel. One of my grade school teachers had STRUT and we mocked her for it.)
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LOT/CLOTH.linguoboy wrote:Donkey--LOT, CLOTH, or STRUT?
Isn't Boston LOT/CLOTH/THOUGHT merged?(CLOTH for me, but last night I noticed that Boston-raised Louis CK has the LOT vowel. One of my grade school teachers had STRUT and we mocked her for it.)
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CLOTH, i.e. /ɒ/ > [ɒ] here.linguoboy wrote:Donkey--LOT, CLOTH, or STRUT?
(CLOTH for me, but last night I noticed that Boston-raised Louis CK has the LOT vowel. One of my grade school teachers had STRUT and we mocked her for it.)
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.
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CLOTHlinguoboy wrote:Donkey--LOT, CLOTH, or STRUT?
(CLOTH for me, but last night I noticed that Boston-raised Louis CK has the LOT vowel. One of my grade school teachers had STRUT and we mocked her for it.)
speaking of odd pronunciations, one of the music teachers here stresses the second syllable in 'pianist'
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
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[pʰiˈjænɨst]? I say it with stress on the second syllable.
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most people stress it like /ˈpiː.ənɪst/
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Oh, well how about that. I guess I've never heard someone from a different area say that word before.
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Well firstly, I've no idea who Jonathon Ross is.brandrinn wrote:I didn't know Jonathon Ross was on the ZBB.
And secondly, to take a crack at these wordses:
falafel [fə.læ.fəʊ̯]
donkey [dʌŋ.ki͡ɪ̯]
lot [lɔʔ]
cloth [clɔəθ]
strut [stʃʋʌʔ]
pianist [piə.nɪst]
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falafel [fə.la.fəl]
donkey [dɔŋ.ki]
lot [lat]
cloth [klɔθ]
strut [strʌt]
pianist [piæ.nɪst]
donkey [dɔŋ.ki]
lot [lat]
cloth [klɔθ]
strut [strʌt]
pianist [piæ.nɪst]
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guys when the question is about stress it's kinda rude not to include it...
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I've actually been wondering why it's so common here to give transcriptions without stress marked. You can see tons of examples of that in the "What Does Your Conlang Resemble/Sound Like?" thread. I always consider it important to mark it, well, unless it's a language like French or Mandarin (though even then they should say so).finlay wrote:guys when the question is about stress it's kinda rude not to include it...
Is it because intro linguistics books usually don't mark it to make things simple(r) when presenting IPA?
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Honaker (whatever the hell that is?!!)
[ˈhɔnɪkɐ]
Oregon: [ˈɔɹɪgən]
Oregano: [ˌɔɹɪˈgaːnɐʉ̯]
Felafel: [fəˈlæfəɫ]
(My mum says [fəˈlaːfəɫ]) which I think would sound affected if anyone young said it like that. An ocker accent would be [fəˈlæfu]
donkey [ˈdɔŋ.ki]
lot [lɔt]
cloth [klɔθ]
strut [stɹat]
pianist [ˈpiːənəst]
real: [ˈɹiːəɫ]
deal: [ˈdiːəɫ]
cruel: [kɹʊːɫ]
duel: [dʒʊːɫ] (merged with jewel)
steal: [ˈstiːəɫ]
peal: [ˈpiːəɫ]
stool: [stʊːɫ]
pool: [pʊːɫ]
stale: [ˈstæɪəɫ]
dale: [ˈdæɪəɫ]
stole: [stɔuɫ]
dole: [dɔuɫ]
The /l/ tends to be pronounced as in casual speech.
[ˈhɔnɪkɐ]
Oregon: [ˈɔɹɪgən]
Oregano: [ˌɔɹɪˈgaːnɐʉ̯]
Felafel: [fəˈlæfəɫ]
(My mum says [fəˈlaːfəɫ]) which I think would sound affected if anyone young said it like that. An ocker accent would be [fəˈlæfu]
donkey [ˈdɔŋ.ki]
lot [lɔt]
cloth [klɔθ]
strut [stɹat]
pianist [ˈpiːənəst]
real: [ˈɹiːəɫ]
deal: [ˈdiːəɫ]
cruel: [kɹʊːɫ]
duel: [dʒʊːɫ] (merged with jewel)
steal: [ˈstiːəɫ]
peal: [ˈpiːəɫ]
stool: [stʊːɫ]
pool: [pʊːɫ]
stale: [ˈstæɪəɫ]
dale: [ˈdæɪəɫ]
stole: [stɔuɫ]
dole: [dɔuɫ]
The /l/ tends to be pronounced as in casual speech.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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How do you folks pronounce "hurry"?
Is it: [hɝɹi], [hʌɹi], [ha.ɹi], [hɑ.ɹi] or something different, for you?
Also, have you succumbed to the horrible "Hurry–Furry Merger" disease, on that topic...?
Is it: [hɝɹi], [hʌɹi], [ha.ɹi], [hɑ.ɹi] or something different, for you?
Also, have you succumbed to the horrible "Hurry–Furry Merger" disease, on that topic...?
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[hʌɹi] vs [fɚːɹi]