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Abi wrote:Not a fan of implosive.

I walked past a family carrying a couch down the street the other day, and they spoke an African language with implosives. They kept yelling a word with an implosive B, and it was a little frightening, so I might have to agree.

Jabechasqvi wrote:Some things that I find unappealing to varying degrees:
— Uvular and pharyngeal consonants
— Schwas and other centralized vowels
— Dutch and especially Afrikaans

Boo!

din wrote:

Abi wrote:Not a fan of implosive.

I walked past a family carrying a couch down the street the other day, and they spoke an African language with implosives. They kept yelling a word with an implosive B, and it was a little frightening, so I might have to agree.

I'm sure that it sounding frightening had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they were yelling...

No, it was definitely the implosive B.



I was attacked by a rolled R the other day, too. I no longer feel safe here.

Jabechasqvi wrote:Some things that I find unappealing to varying degrees:
— Uvular and pharyngeal consonants
— Schwas and other centralized vowels
— Dutch and especially Afrikaans

Well fuck you too.

theweevil wrote:7. Geminate consonants, but mostly vowel length distinctions make my hair combust

tule
tuule
tulle
tulee
tuulle
tuulee
tullee
tuullee

Awaits human torch...

Esmelthien wrote:Well fuck you too.

Which of those pisses you off?

Hint: Esmelthien's from the Netherlands.

Jabechasqvi wrote:

Esmelthien wrote:Well fuck you too.

Which of those pisses you off?

[tʋɑs mɐʀ ə̃ɴ ˈχʁɑpʲə, mɐʀ ɘk spʁeɪ̯k sɛlf ˈnedəʀlɑnts, ɛn ɜt ɨs mə ˈmudəʀtaˑl, dɵz ɘk fɪnt ɜt ʋɛl ˈjɑməʀ dɑt ɜt so ɔnaˑnˈtʁɛkələk klɪŋt fɵʀ jɑʊ̯.]

I quite like it myself
It was just a little joke, though.

Esmelthien wrote:It was just a little joke, though.

No. Don't apologize for telling Eddy to fuck himself.

Xephyr wrote:No. Don't apologize for telling Eddy to fuck himself.

They asked what I disliked and I said it. I refuse to feel bad for responding to this question.

@Esmelthien: Don't take it too personally. I do not particularly dislike Dutch, although it does sound kind of silly to me. Now Afrikaans, on other hand, I do loathe, although I am still not sure whether I consider it a separate language or merely a dialect.

Personally, I don't much care for very vowelly languages. CV syllables are boring. I suppose that might have something to do with me being a budding Slavicist.

The practice of using "an" with words beginning with H's that the speaker doesn't drop, e.g, /{n hIstorIk ivEnt/, rather than /@ hIstorIk ivEnt/ or /{n IstorIk ivEnt/.

linguofreak wrote:The practice of using "an" with words beginning with H's that the speaker doesn't drop, e.g, /{n hIstorIk ivEnt/, rather than /@ hIstorIk ivEnt/ or /{n IstorIk ivEnt/.

Now that depends on the "H" word; an historic sounds fine to me, but an history doesn't.
I think it's one of those cases of English "borrowing" Latin or Greek words and it's not quite certain yet if it's going to pronounce the initial "H" or not. Most Romance languages drop the initial "H" (either just in speech or even in speech and in writing) and the initial "rough breathing" of Ancient Greek is neither written nor pronounced in modern Greek, though it's written in Latin borrowings from Greek: (lat) hora from (gr) ὥρα, (lat) Hellas from (gr) Ἑλλάς, etc...
English history from Latin historia, ultimately from Ancient Greek ἱστορία is one of those words too.

I would keep the /h/ in historical but not in historic.

I dislike clicks. And to a lesser degree, implosives.

I dislike European languages that don't include [e E], fine as allophones. Probably showing my English bias. I like at least 7 cardinal vowels.

I also found that I like moderate sized consonant inventories, which is the main reason I prefer a ceceo accent in my Spanish...I am also ambivalent towards approximant + vowel & diphthong combinations.

meltman wrote:I also found that I like moderate sized consonant inventories, which is the main reason I prefer a ceceo accent in my Spanish...I am also ambivalent towards approximant + vowel & diphthong combinations.

This doesn't make sense. ceceo is, by definition, the complete substitution of /s/ with /T/, so that the phoneme inventory is the same size as that of variety with seseo (which is the total substitution of /T/ with /s/).

If you are talking about the distinction of /T/ and /s/, it's a variety with distinción (such as mine), and I'm glad you speak it.

Excuse me for being a bit on the extreme, but these I don't like at all:
[ɰxɣχʁħʕʀɢʔ ƥɓƈʄƙɠʠʛ]

Velar fricatives, pharyngeals, ugh. Implosives too.
Why not just do aspirates instead? No need to force so much energy into a stop-release event that just sounds weaker than an aspirated plosive.

Clicks on the other hand, can be fun for making interesting silent non plosive rythms for say beatboxing. e.g [ʘʔǁǂ.ʘʔǁ, ǂɬʘ]

Vuvuzela wrote:I don't like ↗ languages, especially ↗dialects of ↗English with rising intonation at the ends of ↗statements. (Like some younger female speakers from southern California or, more egregiously, imitations thereof.)

I'm in the middle of that I feel your pain

Vuvuzela wrote:I don't like ↗ languages, especially ↗dialects of ↗English with rising intonation at the ends of ↗statements. (Like some younger female speakers from southern California or, more egregiously, imitations thereof.)

Since moving to Australia I've noticed myself doing this more and more. Every time I catch myself I feel disappointed...

I'm not a fan of rhotic English, or the use of /ʉː/ in AusE.

While everyone is entitled to their personal opinions, I prefer to limit my hatred to objective facts, e.g., that front rounded vowels and palatalization are evil and wrong.

kuroda wrote:While everyone is entitled to their personal opinions, I prefer to limit my hatred to objective facts, e.g., that front rounded vowels and palatalization are evil and wrong.

Høy cʲertʲeʏn ar ju øf ðʲe øbdʒʲectyvyti øf ðʲat?

Hubris Incalculable wrote:Høy cʲertʲeʏn ar ju øf ðʲe øbdʒʲectyvyti øf ðʲat?

Absolute certainty! I'm inclined to attribute the bizarre and saddening belief in the subjectivity of linguistic aesthetics to, yes, palatalization toxicity syndrome.

But I like my [ʏ ʏə ʏː] and [œː]. It's distinctive!

linguoboy wrote:

Abi wrote:I don't like nom rhotic accents in English, even more so if they're American (bahstuhn).

I think nom rhotic accents are delicious!

Rhotic English makes me wanna puke from arse outta my mouth. Apart from West Country.