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Pressed Bunson wrote:Me parece como me hice anquilosando en mis estudios de español.
I feel like I've gotten into a rut in my Spanish studies.
anquilosar is a medical term nobody would understand
Me parece como si me hubiera estancado en mis estudios de español.
[as if... like I've kind of construction is, como si (me) hubiera/hubiese X]
[estanque (n.) is pond; estanco/a (adj.) is still (a bit poetic), as of water; estancarse is to be still; to get into a rut]

Trabalha com as subordinadas!
Work on subordination :evil: !

Astraios, concordo com Imralu. As regras sempre podem ser rompidas e ter exceções. Depende da pessoa. Podes deixá-la voltar a entrar, se não houver possibilidades altas de eles te magoarem.
Astraios, I agree with Imralu. Rules can always be broken and have exceptions. It depends on the person. You can let them back in, if there aren't high chances they'll hurt you.

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Imralu wrote:Kannst du genauer beschreiben, was los ist?
Can you give us a better understanding of what's going on?
Веганский друг мой, который меня полюбил в Иерусалиме в прошлом году, и думает, что быть невеганом, это хуже, чем убить людей. Он всегда и знал, что меня не интересует веганство, но ещё хотел подружиться со мной. А я не полюбила, но я всегда даю людям влюбляться во мне, потому что давай, то и ему давала, а потом и я сблизилась с нём. Но сейчас (вчера) я ему рассказала о моей поездке в Лондон, и упомянула, что ели с двумя другами в невеганском ристоране, а он рассердился и сказал очень по-драматически, что между нами всегда было и всегда ещё будет фундаментальное недоразумение, что не больше может слушать мои мясоедные оправдания, и что обоим нам лучше будет, не больше сконтактироваться друг с другом. То я ему дала уйти, потому что ему захотелось, а он ушёл, а я его заблокировала так, как и мне не захочется заново сконтактироваться с тем, кто может выбросить всё то, что между нами было, лишь из-за того, что ему важнее то, что я ем, чем та, кто я.

A vegan friend of mine, who fell in love with me in Jerusalem last year, and thinks that being non-vegan is worse than killing people. He did always know that veganism doesn't interest me, but he still wanted to be friends with me. I didn't fall in love, but I always let people be in love with me because why not, so I let him too, and then I got closer to him as well. But now (yesterday) I was telling him about my trip to London and mentioned that I'd eaten with two friends at a non-vegan restaurant, and he got angry and said very dramatically that there always had been and always would be a fundamental misunderstanding between us, that he couldn't listen anymore to my justifications for meat-eating, and that it'd be better for both of us to not be in contact with each other anymore. So I let him leave, because he wanted to, and he left, and I blocked him because I don't want either to be in touch with someone who can throw away everything there was between us just because it's more important to him what I eat than who I am.

Imralu wrote:Ich glaube nicht, dass ich mich an so strenge Regeln halte wie du. Ich entscheide so was immer von Fall zu Fall. Warum würde es dich verwirren?
I don't think I hold myself to such strict rules as you do. I always take things like this on a case by case basis. Why would it confuse you?
Меня не ранит, если ему захочется возвращаться, а я ведь не захочу такого друга. Он если мне докажет, что ему уже не важно то, что я ем, я обдумаю, может быть.
It won't hurt me if he'll want to come back, but I still don't want that kind of friend. If he shows me that it's not important to him anymore what I eat, I'll consider it, maybe.

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Astraios wrote:A vegan friend of mine, who fell in love with me in Jerusalem last year, and thinks that being non-vegan is worse than killing people.
Persönlich denke ich, daß alle vegans verrückt sind. Ich meine, kein problem wenn mann kein Fleisch essen woll, obwohl es ganz natürlich ist. Aber gar keine Tierprodukte benützen, das ist sagen, der Mensch ist nicht natürlich, wir sind über der Natur, und machen kein Teil aus von ihr. Und das ist so, so arrogant, daß jemand verrückt sein muß es zu glauben. Wir sind auch Tiere!
Personally, I think that all vegans are crazy. I mean, no problem when one doesn't want to eat meat, even though it's completely natural. But not using animal products at all, that's saying that man is not natural, that we're above nature, and are not part of it. And that's so, so arrogant, that someone has to be crazy to believe it. We're animals to!


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Különleges állat vagyünk azonban. Autóink van.
We're special animals though. We have cars.

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Cavolo, Astraios. Hai avuto piu` pazienza che avrei avuto.
Dang, Astraios. You have more patience than what I would've had.

Ho nessuni problemi con gente chi non mangia la carne, ma che cretino!
I have no problems with people who don't eat meat, but what a dick!
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Ein Kollege hat mir gestern gesagt, "Ich bin Vegan und ich glaube, wir sollten Hirsche erschiessen."
"Veigeán is ea mé, agus, dar liom, is cóir dúinn fia a chaitheamh," arsa comhghleacaí liom.
A coworker told me yesterday, "I'm a vegan and I think we should shoot deer."

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Astraios, sag ihm, dass du lieber Menschen essen würdest als Tiere, dass das aber leider illegal ist.
Astraios, tell him you'd rather eat people than animals but that unfortunately, that's illegal.
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jal wrote:Persönlich denke ich, daß alle vegans verrückt sind. Ich meine, kein problem wenn mann kein Fleisch essen woll, obwohl es ganz natürlich ist. Aber gar keine Tierprodukte benützen, das ist sagen, der Mensch ist nicht natürlich, wir sind über der Natur, und machen kein Teil aus von ihr. Und das ist so, so arrogant, daß jemand verrückt sein muß es zu glauben. Wir sind auch Tiere!
Personally, I think that all vegans are crazy. I mean, no problem when one doesn't want to eat meat, even though it's completely natural. But not using animal products at all, that's saying that man is not natural, that we're above nature, and are not part of it. And that's so, so arrogant, that someone has to be crazy to believe it. We're animals to!
.אני מסכים שרובם מתנשאים, לא כולם אבל תשעים וחמשה אחוז מהם כן
Ani maskim sherubam mitnas'im, lo kulam aval tish'im vakhamisha akhuz mehem ken.
I agree that most of them are arrogant, not all of them but ninety five percent of them are.

Theta wrote:Különleges állat vagyünk azonban. Autóink van.
We're special animals though. We have cars.
У меня нет.
I don't. :)

Nate wrote:Ho nessuni problemi con gente chi non mangia la carne, ma che cretino!
I have no problems with people who don't eat meat, but what a dick!
Да, он хуём. Он сказал, что от меня отдаляется потому, что я не верю в абсолютистском злом.
Yes, he's a dick. He said he's put off from me because I don't believe in absolute evil.

linguoboy wrote:Ein Kollege hat mir gestern gesagt, "Ich bin Vegan und ich glaube, wir sollten Hirsche erschiessen."
"Veigeán is ea mé, agus, dar liom, is cóir dúinn fia a chaitheamh," arsa comhghleacaí liom.
A coworker told me yesterday, "I'm a vegan and I think we should shoot deer."
А я невеганкой и думаю, что нельзя. Нас перепутали!
I'm not a vegan and I think we shouldn't. They mixed us up!

Imralu wrote:Astraios, sag ihm, dass du lieber Menschen essen würdest als Tiere, dass das aber leider illegal ist.
Astraios, tell him you'd rather eat people than animals but that unfortunately, that's illegal.
xD
Но он тоже бы съел людей, скорее чем животных...
But he'd also rather eat people than animals...

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Astraios wrote:I'm not a vegan and I think we shouldn't. They mixed us up!
Genau, da es viel humaner ist, sie massenweise verhungern zu lassen.
Right, because it's much more humane to let them starve to death en masse.

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Hi ha una història antiga sobre una cosa que es diu natura i que els animals no depenen dels éssers humans i això.
There's this ancient tale about a thing called nature and animals not being dependent on human beings and shit.

Encara que la gent tingui la seva ètica al nivell de validesa lògica de "lol ja que he entrat a ta casa millor que et mati" a vegades.
Tho people actually have their ethics on the "lol I already broke into your house so I better kill you anyway" validity level at times.

Tenim molt d'això aquí de la gent pro-correbous que pensa que està malament parar amb la crueltat animal perquè la raça "brava" "s'extingiria".
We get a lot of that here from pro-bullfighting people who think it is evil to stop animal cruelty because the "violent" race would "go extinct".

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linguoboy wrote:Genau, da es viel humaner ist, sie massenweise verhungern zu lassen.
Right, because it's much more humane to let them starve to death en masse.
Подожди, дай мне обстановку. Если ты говоришь о выбраковке, тебя понимаю, но ещё не соглашаюсь с тобой.
Wait, give me the setting. If you're talking about a cull, I understand you but I still don't agree with you.

Thry wrote:Tenim molt d'això aquí de la gent pro-correbous que pensa que està malament parar amb la crueltat animal perquè la raça "brava" "s'extingiria".
We get a lot of that here from pro-bullfighting people who think it is evil to stop animal cruelty because the "violent" race would "go extinct".
Que raça? Humana?
What race? Human?

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Astraios wrote:
linguoboy wrote:Genau, da es viel humaner ist, sie massenweise verhungern zu lassen.
Right, because it's much more humane to let them starve to death en masse.
Подожди, дай мне обстановку. Если ты говоришь о выбраковке, тебя понимаю, но ещё не соглашаюсь с тобой.
Wait, give me the setting. If you're talking about a cull, I understand you but I still don't agree with you.
Das Milieu ist irgendwo, wo es zu viele Hirsche gibt, In den USA, das ist fast überall.
Is é an suíomh aon bhall atá an iomad fianna ann. Sna SAM is é sin beagnach gach aon bhall.
The setting is anywhere there are too many deer. In the USA, that's almost everywhere.

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Que raça? La humana?
What race? Human?
El toro de lidia.

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linguoboy wrote:Das Milieu ist irgendwo, wo es zu viele Hirsche gibt, In den USA, das ist fast überall.
Is é an suíomh aon bhall atá an iomad fianna ann. Sna SAM is é sin beagnach gach aon bhall.
The setting is anywhere there are too many deer. In the USA, that's almost everywhere.
То выбраковка.
So culling.


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Ich hab mich verschossen und fühle mich zurückgewiesen. Ich weiß nicht, ob ich es ertragen könnte, nur Freunde zu sein. Dafür ist es zu weit gekommen. Ich will weg, doch ich sitze bis übermorgen an seiner Seite fest. Bis dahin muss ich jeden Moment mit ihm verbringen.
I've fallen head over heels but feel rejected. I don't know if I could stand just being friends. Things have gone too far for that. I want to run away but I'm stuck by his side until the day after tomorrow. Until then, I'll have to spend every moment with him.
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Et sents rebutjat perquè ell et va rebutjar?
You feel rejected because he has rejected you?

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Aime-le si tu veux. Contrairement à ce qu'on dit, c'est tout à fait possible d'aimer quelqu'un qui ne t'aime que bien, et ça ne doit même pas faire mal, si vous deux êtes d'accord. Moi j'ai des amis que j'aime, et ça rend tout mieux, parce qu'il n'y a pas la pression de rester en couple, ni les soucis que se passerait-il si nous . . . Si tu ne te laisses pas aimer ceux que tu aimes, comment vas-tu aimer celui qui t'aime ?
Love him if you want. Contrarily to what people say, it's totally possible to love someone who only likes you, and it doesn't have to hurt, if you're both in agreement. I have friends I love, and it makes everything better, because there isn't the pressure to stay as a couple, or the worries what'd happen if we... If you don't let yourself love the people you love, how are you going to love the person who loves you?

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Astraios wrote:Всегда чуть грустно, когда дают кому-либо уйти, и знают, что ему не дадут всю возможность войти снова, но по-моему, лучше не давать никому возвращаться, который уже ушёл, потому что меня бы спутал, если б ему захотелось возвращаться. А вы что говорите?
It's always a bit sad when you let someone go and know that you're not going to let them come back in again, but in my opinion it's better to not let anyone back in who's gone out, because it would confuse me if they suddenly wanted to come back. What do you guys think?
Astraios wrote: Веганский друг мой, который меня полюбил в Иерусалиме в прошлом году, и думает, что быть невеганом, это хуже, чем убивать людей. Он всегда и знал, что меня не интересует веганство, но всё равно хотел подружиться со мной. А я не влюбилась, но я всегда даю людям влюбляться во меня, потому что почему и нет, а потом и я сблизилась с нём. Но сейчас (вчера) я ему рассказала о моей поездке в Лондон, и упомянула, что ели с двумя друзьями в невеганском ристоране, а он рассердился и сказал очень по-драматически, что между нами всегда было и всегда ещё будет фундаментальное недоразумение, что не больше может слушать мои мясоедные оправдания, и что обоим нам лучше будет, больше не подддерживать контакт друг с другом. То я ему дала уйти, потому что ему захотелось, а он ушёл, а я его заблокировала, так, как и мне не захочется поддерживать контакт с тем, кто может выбрасивать всё то, что между нами было, лишь из-за того, что ему важнее то, что я ем, чем то, кто я есть.

A vegan friend of mine, who fell in love with me in Jerusalem last year, and thinks that being non-vegan is worse than killing people. He did always know that veganism doesn't interest me, but he still wanted to be friends with me. I didn't fall in love, but I always let people be in love with me because why not, so I let him too, and then I got closer to him as well. But now (yesterday) I was telling him about my trip to London and mentioned that I'd eaten with two friends at a non-vegan restaurant, and he got angry and said very dramatically that there always had been and always would be a fundamental misunderstanding between us, that he couldn't listen anymore to my justifications for meat-eating, and that it'd be better for both of us to not be in contact with each other anymore. So I let him leave, because he wanted to, and he left, and I blocked him because I don't want either to be in touch with someone who can throw away everything there was between us just because it's more important to him what I eat than who I am.

Меня не поранит, если ему захочется возвращаться, а я всё равно не захочу такого друга. Он если мне докажет, что ему уже не важно то, что я ем, я обдумаю, может быть.
It won't hurt me if he'll want to come back, but I still don't want that kind of friend. If he shows me that it's not important to him anymore what I eat, I'll consider it, maybe.
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Astraios wrote:A vegan friend of mine, who fell in love with me in Jerusalem last year, and thinks that being non-vegan is worse than killing people.
Persönlich denke ich, daß alle Veganer verrückt sind. Ich meine, kein Problem, wenn mann kein Fleisch essen will, obwohl es ganz natürlich ist. Aber gar keine Tierprodukte benützen, das bedeutet, der Mensch ist nicht natürlich, wir sind über der Natur, und machen kein Teil aus von ihr aus. Und das ist so, so arrogant, daß jemand verrückt sein muß, es zu glauben. Wir sind auch Tiere!
Personally, I think that all vegans are crazy. I mean, no problem when one doesn't want to eat meat, even though it's completely natural. But not using animal products at all, that's saying that man is not natural, that we're above nature, and are not part of it. And that's so, so arrogant, that someone has to be crazy to believe it. We're animals to!
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Nate wrote:Ho nessuni problemi con gente chi non mangia la carne, ma che cretino!
I have no problems with people who don't eat meat, but what a dick!
Да, он хуём. Он сказал, что от меня отдаляется потому, что я не верю в абсолютное злом.
Yes, he's a dick. He said he's put off from me because I don't believe in absolute evil.
linguoboy wrote:Ein Kollege hat mir gestern gesagt, "Ich bin Vegan und ich glaube, wir sollten Hirsche erschiessen."
"Veigeán is ea mé, agus, dar liom, is cóir dúinn fia a chaitheamh," arsa comhghleacaí liom.
A coworker told me yesterday, "I'm a vegan and I think we should shoot deer."
А я невеганкой и думаю, что нельзя. Нас спутали*1)!
I'm not a vegan and I think we shouldn't. They mixed us up!
перепу́тать means "mix up" in the sense of "take for someone else".
Imralu wrote:Astraios, sag ihm, dass du lieber Menschen essen würdest als Tiere, dass das aber leider illegal ist.
Astraios, tell him you'd rather eat people than animals but that unfortunately, that's illegal.
xD
Но он тоже бы съедал людей, скорее чем животных...
Astraios wrote:
linguoboy wrote:Genau, da es viel humaner ist, sie massenweise verhungern zu lassen.
Right, because it's much more humane to let them starve to death en masse.
Подожди, дай мне обстановку. Если ты говоришь о выбраковке, тебя понимаю, но всё равно не соглашаюсь с тобой.
Wait, give me the setting. If you're talking about a cull, I understand you but I still don't agree with you.
linguoboy wrote:Wait, give me the setting. If you're talking about a cull, I understand you but I still don't agree with you.
Die Umgebung*1) ist überall*2), wo es zu viele Hirsche gibt, In den USA, das ist fast überall.
The setting is anywhere there are too many deer. In the USA, that's almost everywhere.
*1) Milieu is almost excluively used in sociological and psychological contexts.
*2) As antecedent to that kind of relative clauses, German uses the equivalent of the every-X series, not the any-X series.
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パトリック・ベートマン似ている男を見ます。本当にこわい。
patorikku bētoman niteiru otoko o mimasu. hontou ni kowai.
I see a man that looks like Patrick Bateman. It's really scary.
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Vielleicht sage ich etwas Ungerechtes gegen die Hochschulfrauen, aber es mir schient, dass sie ihre Zeit nicht verwalten wissen, wenn sie eine Beziehung haben. Meine zwei beste Freundinnen haben jetzt Freunde, und es scheint, dass sie alle andere vergessen haben. Ehrlich kann ich nicht den Reiz von Beziehungen verstehen; wie können sie glauben, dass es vernünftig ist, zu alle von ihrer Energie in einer einzigen Person anlegen?

Maybe I'm saying something unfair towards college girls, but it seems to me that they don't know how to manage their time when they're in a relationship. My two best female friends have boyfriends now, and it seems like they've forgotten everybody else. Honestly I don't understand the appeal of relationships; how can they think it's reasonable to invest all of their energy in one person?

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.גם אני לא מבין איך משקיעים את הכל במישהו אחד. אולי הן בנות תת-מין אחר
Gam ani lo mevin eikh mashki'im et hakol bemishehu ekhad. Ulay hen bnot tat-min akher.
I don't understand either how to invest everything in one person. Maybe they're a different subspecies.

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ঠিক করলাম যে, বাংলায় লেখা উচিৎ।
I've decided that I should write in Bengali.
I did have a bizarrely similar (to the original poster's) accident about four years ago, in which I slipped over a cookie and somehow twisted my ankle so far that it broke
What kind of cookie?
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最近、ここに書いてないね。普通に不安があるし、時間がなくなった感じがあるし。今から子供に教えなきゃ。子供に教えることが好きじゃないわね。
I haven't written here recently... I've had anxiety as usual, and I've had this feeling like I have no time. Now I have to teach kids....I don't like teaching kids!

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finlay wrote:I don't like teaching kids!
Warum nicht? Ich meine, Kinder etwas lehren ist nicht so einfach als Erwachsenen, aber sie [der Kinder] sind oft viel offener für die Information als Erwachsenen.
Why not? I mean, to teach children isn't as easy as teaching adults, but they [the children] are often much more open to the information than grown-ups.


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Bristel wrote:I see a man that looks like Patrick Bateman. It's really scary.
Unheimlich daß Sie jemand sehen dehnen aussieht wie PB, oder daß der Mann (ich nehme an, daß es hier um einen Mann handelt) unheimlich aussieht (und zufällich wie PB)?
Scary that you see someone that looks like PB, or that the man (I take it that we're talking about a man here) looks scary (and accidently like PB)?


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