Words you hate because of their sounds

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I hate the English words bequeath and sequester. So I guess I should consider myself lucky.
I have no problems with squash, though. I think that's an awesome word. So it's not the /skwVS/ combo that does it.


An ugly word in Dutch is keukengordijn /'køkənɣɔʁ'dɛin/ (kitchen curtain), because it combines two pretty ugly words into a little sequence of awfulness.

Another little gem is walgelijk and the corresponding verb walgen /'wɑlɣən/, which mean to revolt. Daar walg ik van :x

The most inelegant Dutch word I've been able to find is gebodsbord /ɣə'bɔts'bɔʁt/, meaning mandatory sign (in traffic).
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brandrinn wrote: Dark L in "rural?" Maybe in lower Alabama they treat the English language with such disdain, but surely in no civilized part of the the country/world.

But dark L is a good thing to mention if it hasn't been already. Needs to die in a fire.
Isn't dark (velarized) /l/ the non-prevocalic allophone in both GenAm and RP? Or is syllabic /l/ an exception to that?
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It is for every American I've met, and I've never been anywhere in the southeastern quadrant of the US, at least not outside of airports.
It's (broadly) [faɪ.ˈjuw.lɛ]
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Jetboy wrote:
brandrinn wrote: Dark L in "rural?" Maybe in lower Alabama they treat the English language with such disdain, but surely in no civilized part of the the country/world.

But dark L is a good thing to mention if it hasn't been already. Needs to die in a fire.
Isn't dark (velarized) /l/ the non-prevocalic allophone in both GenAm and RP? Or is syllabic /l/ an exception to that?
Many dialects of English in the US (and in England as far as I know) have dark l in all positions. Mine does.

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Theta wrote:
Jetboy wrote:
brandrinn wrote: Dark L in "rural?" Maybe in lower Alabama they treat the English language with such disdain, but surely in no civilized part of the the country/world.

But dark L is a good thing to mention if it hasn't been already. Needs to die in a fire.
Isn't dark (velarized) /l/ the non-prevocalic allophone in both GenAm and RP? Or is syllabic /l/ an exception to that?
Many dialects of English in the US (and in England as far as I know) have dark l in all positions. Mine does.
In the UK in general it's quite variable, but the "norm" is light in initial position and dark in final position. Dark in initial position is used in Scotland (eg by me), and I think it's used in various places in the north of England and Wales. Light in final position is used typically in Ireland (but I think this might be again different in Belfast, with the typical-for-Britain light/dark dichotomy), but also other parts of Scotland, Liverpool (in the north of England), and Wales.

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Theta wrote:
Jetboy wrote:
brandrinn wrote: Dark L in "rural?" Maybe in lower Alabama they treat the English language with such disdain, but surely in no civilized part of the the country/world.

But dark L is a good thing to mention if it hasn't been already. Needs to die in a fire.
Isn't dark (velarized) /l/ the non-prevocalic allophone in both GenAm and RP? Or is syllabic /l/ an exception to that?
Many dialects of English in the US (and in England as far as I know) have dark l in all positions. Mine does.
Mine doesn't even have a "light" or a "dark" /l/, period. The closest is a lateral velar approximant, and that is primarily found in careful speech and when geminate. Most of the time it is just a velar approximant or a back offglide agreeing in rounding with what it follows and, in cases, precedes, the details of which are a rather complex matter.

When I do hear either a "light" or "dark" /l/, but especially the former, in my dialect, it is almost always either "learned", a different dialect after all, or simply a non-native speaker of English.

(In actual everyday speech I specifically associate the "light" /l/ with either non-native or affected speech, and am only used to hearing it being used by native speakers when singing.)
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Yours is a dark L, just without the coronal POA. But it's dark by virtue of being velar(ised).

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Travis B. wrote: (In actual everyday speech I specifically associate the "light" /l/ with either non-native or affected speech, and am only used to hearing it being used by native speakers when singing.)
Same. My /l/ is always velarized initially and medially, and finally and when syllabic it's something like [o].

And more words I hate: creampie, poodle, maggot, kinky, normal, booty, martyr, and German.

I should make a conlang with phonotactics based on these words.

Ascima mresa óscsma sáca psta numar cemea.
Cemea tae neasc ctá ms co ísbas Ascima.
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Creampie is indeed a terrible terrible terrible word. But more for its meaning than its sound.
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Darkgamma wrote:
Fanu wrote:For me it's something like [ˈaŋsʃʷvaɪ̯s], with a heavily roundes sch or so. Weird word.
Angsschweiß :D
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Another silly word is nipple, and it’s even sillier in the plural. "Nipples" sounds like something Viktor would buy.
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Shm Jay wrote:Another silly word is nipple, and it’s even sillier in the plural. "Nipples" sounds like something Viktor would buy.
Nippel sounds even more silly with the higher vowels [nipel]
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Skomakar'n wrote:
Astraios wrote:/hajuS/ and /bajuS/ in Hebrew, as dumb-teenage-girl equivalents of 'hi' and 'bye'. Yuck.
/ˈbɒjus/ is 'moustache' in Hungarian and /bajs/ is 'poop' in Swedish.
Lol, yeah:
Darkgamma wrote:And Angstschweiß as [ˈaŋsts͡ʃb̪ajs]
Angst poop. I don't even wanna think what that would be.
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And to bring it full circle, if you dropped the /v/...
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MisterBernie wrote:And to bring it full circle, if you dropped the /v/...
You mean "Ich angstscheiß' " ? I fear-shit =/ That's a bit silly a word. Angsty poop
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Hirsch heiß ich Hirsch heiß ich Hir scheiß ich ... oops. (This only works well in regions that have [iːɐ], though)

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Oracle sounds bad...
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I'm gonna nominate ørreder as a Danish example. It's such a horribly rough word to pronounce.

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Okay, I keep looking at this thread expecting to agree with something, but.. you people are weird.

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Guitarplayer wrote:
MisterBernie wrote:[ˈkʰɛfʃə]?
Worse. On par is [ˈkʰɛfçn̩], as the Standard German form. Also, Tschüssi [ˈʧʏsiː] and Tschüsschen [ˈʧʏsçn̩] and similar such mutilations.
In Cologne, people say "Tschüü". :D

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Bob Johnson wrote:Okay, I keep looking at this thread expecting to agree with something, but.. you people are weird.
Why don't you give a word that you think sounds bad then?

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Can't think of any! That's the problem! :?

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Bob Johnson wrote:Can't think of any! That's the problem! :?
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Just rolls off the tongue, just like floccinaucinihilipilification and pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.

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