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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:08 pm 
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These are always fun.

has a bilabial trill and a stop with trilled release - [dr] acts as a single consonant. Also, it contrasts /v v\ w/, which you don't see very often, and its orthography has probably the only use of <ß> outside of German.
has 10 pulmonic consonants and 20 clicks, and an aspiration distinction only on the velar stop.
has a "defective" vowel system, and a process of consonant alternation where, for example, /t_h/ alternates with /r_0/.
has a voiceless dental bilabially trilled affricate (/tB\_0/ as a single consonant), /S x_w/ as the only fricatives, and five front vowels with only one back vowel. also has a weird inventory of fricatives, with only /B z` G/, in addition to having /l_j/ as its only lateral.
has one front rounded vowel, /9/. is similar, with /2/ as its only front rounded vowel.
has no velars except for /w/.
contrasts plain and velarized bilabials, but has no secondary articulation contrast on any other consonants.
has a retroflex tap with lateral release and a vowel system of /{ e O M u/.
has the most... interesting vowel system I've ever seen.
And, of course, .

Anyone have more? (There are probably a few well-known ones that I forgot.)

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Ubykh - and a lot of other West Caucasian languages - aren't even all that weird; they have large consonant inventories, but those a pretty well balanced and symmetrical.

Really weird inventories have weird gaps. You've mentioned some good examples.


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has a few interesting gaps, contrasts voicing in continuants only at the pharyngeal POA and in addition has /q͡ʡ/.

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I'm quite sure Arabic's /q/ is also something closer to [q͡ʡ], as it has a quality which sounds further back than uvular. When I have pronounced it as a pure /q/ my Arabic speaking friends have told me to make it 'heavier'.


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I knew I was forgetting something.

has [n] as an allophone of /g/, [B\] as an allophone of /b/, and possibly [k] as an allophone of /hi/, and can be analyzed as having either no nasals or no velars.
has voice and place as the only distinguished features of consonants.
has 25 diphthongs and three levels of length on vowels and consonants.
is just insane.

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English is really weird it has dental fricatives~~~~


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has one front vowel, three central vowels, and two back vowels.
affricates word-medial /t q/.
has a series of linguolabial consonants, one prenasalized stop, /nd/, and three voiced fricatives and one voiceless one, all at different places of articulation.
has labial-alveolar, labial-postalveolar, and labial-velar stops - /tp t_-p kp/ as single phonemes.
has an epiglottal trill, "releases" /s/ like a stop (adding a short, possibly voiceless, epenthetic schwa after the consonant - the plosives are the only other consonants to do this), and has a phoneme that varies dialectically between /D/, /K\/, and /d_d/.
has an interdental series and a central semivowel, /1_^/.
Badaga contrasts two degrees of rhoticity in all of its vowels.
Jinhai Wu has a vowel inventory of /a e ɯ ɨ i ɞ ɵ ø u y ɿ/.
has no low vowels.
has only opening diphthongs.

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That vowel system reminds me of .

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has actual aspirated nasals (and an aspirated lateral), and labiodental allophones of labial and labialized consonants before /@/. (yes that means [F_0_h])

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