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has massive amounts of grammatical metathesis and deletion, and some weird rules for handling vowel clusters. (/uO/ -> [wa], but /ua/ -> [wO]? the fuck?)

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doesn't have one really strange feature, but it has a bunch of odd features combined that make it weird imo:

-no labials except /w/

-no voicing contrast on any phonemes, but the only affricate is /dZ/

-/i e { a o/ vowel system, with /e~ u~/. I'd definitely expect /o~/ instead of /u~/ because there is no /u/ and nasal vowels are susceptible to lowering.

-no /l/ or /r/ phonemes.

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I am going for the monophthongs at the moment. I have found these so far:

/a: A: A E: E i: I: I o: u: u ? U: U U\: y: Y: Y 2 &: &/

I'll state examples including all of these, composed in the following form:
Standard Swedish orthography - /Standard Swedish pronunciation/ - [my pronunciation] - preferred orthography for me - English translation

galen - /'gA:l@n/ - ['ga:l`In] - galen - crazy
tala - /'tA:la/ - ['tA:l`A] - tala - speak
kall - /kal:/ - [kAl`Ir] - kalder - cold
här - /h{:r/ - [hE:r] - her - here/army
älska - /Elska/ - [El`skA] - elska - to love
i - /i:/ - [i:] - i/í - in
veta - /'ve:ta/ - ['vI:tA] - vita - to wit
sitta - /'sIt:a/ - ['sIt:Sa] - sitja - to sit
någon - /'no:gOn/ - ['no:kYn] - nokun -some/someone
bok - /bu:k/ - ['bu:k] - bok/bók - book
trodde - /'trud:@/ - ['tru?I] - thought/believed
bord - /bu:d`/ - [bU:r] - bord/borð - table/board
kort - /kUt`/ - [kUt`] - kort - card
ko - /ku:/ - [kU\:] - ku/kú - cow
fryser - /fry:s@r/ - [fry:s] - frys/frýs - I freeze
runa - /'rU\:na/ - ['RY:nA] - runa - rune
upp - /U\p:/ - [Yp:] or [Y:p:] - upp - up
börja - /'b2r:ja/ - ['b2r:jA] - byrja - to begin
såg - /so:g/ - [s&:g] - søg - a saw
snön - /sn2n:/ - [sJ&n] - snjø(e)n - the snow

I need help with a particular symbol. Both IPA and X-SAMPA. I often realise /s/ as some kind of mix between [s] and [S]. Like a very weak [S]... Do you know what I mean? In the example with <sitja> up there, it's really supposed to be that symbol and not /S/. Actually goes for the initial /s/ as well, and the final /s/ in <frys> and probably a lot of the others.


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There's a lot of weirdness in that area, apparently.

only has voice distinctions in /p/ and /l/.
has a velarized lateral approximant with interdental release.
has a vowel system of /a e o i @~ u~/.
has aspirates with velar frication, which only contrast with normal affricates before /e/, and an ejective uvular fricative.

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