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That's not the problem; I know the difference. :oops:


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unless I'm explicitly talking about a ""phoneme"" or a specific language I always use [] – it's actually a good rule of thumb to use that one when in doubt, although too many use // when in doubt. but yeah you're right, if it's not relevant people are inclined not to bother with brackets – it's just that some of them get themselves in a pickle because the phoneme/phone distinction is suddenly relevant and they've forgotten which way round they go...


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It's not a phonology, but is a weird phonological rule. In Montana Salish, /n/ > [i] before /s/ and sometimes before other fricatives.


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bluggggh massive bump. I should just put this shit in a textfile instead of dumping it here but I'm lazy

has an ejective uvular affricate, but no plain uvular stops. (actually, is affrication on uvular stops that uncommon?) Also, it has a full inventory of epiglottals, which is pretty rare. (although all the Nakh languages have those, except Chechen, which doesn't have the stop)

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has a vowel system of /a E 2 o i 1/ and some weird allophone fuckery. Also, the differences between the two main dialects are absurdly large.

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has a vowel system of /i e o æ a ẽ ũ/

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Eh, that's not that strange. Plus we've already mentioned an Iroquoian vowel system earlier, and they're mostly similar to that.


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has a set of lateral velar fricatives (and affricates - yeah, it has [k͡ʟ̝̊ʷʼ]) but no central velar fricatives.

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has /ɸ/ which can be realized as [b] in word-initial positions.
It also has /j/ that can be realized as [ʝ] in word-initial stressed syllables and as [z] in word-initial unstressed syllables.


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Faroese has [j] in some (or all?) places where /ð/ was in the older language, and it is written <ð>. (I'm guessing this isn't so weird? Do [ð] get lowered a bit as an approximant and then turned into [j] in other languages?)

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