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Es gibt zirka einen Monat, bis ich an der Universität anfangen werde, Deutsch und Linguistik zu studieren. Gibt's irgendwas, dass ich wissen soll, um mich darauf vorzubereiten?
There's about a month until I start studying German and linguistics at university. Is there anything I should to prepare for it?


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Я не хочу быть Отрицательная Ольга, но я полагаю, что ты изучать тоже что-то более практичное. Все мне сказали, что я должен изучать то, что я люблю болшее всего (я изучил лингвистику и иврит), а сейчас я рассматриваю вопрос о курсах программирования.

I don't want to be a Negative Nancy, but I suggest you study something more practical as well, in addition to linguistics. Everybody told me that I should study what I love the most (I studied linguistics and Hebrew), and now I'm considering taking programming courses.


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Qu'est-t-il passé aux participants de ce fil. Jal, où es-tu?

De ma part, j'ai souvent mal au reins et au abdomen après que j'aie mangé. Je souffre d'une maladie mysterieuse dont la cause échappe même à mon médecin. Je me mettrai à un régime où je ne pourrai pas manger de gluten. On verra si cela me soulagera car pour l'instant cette douleur est devenue insupportable.

Was ist mit den Teilnehmere passiert?

Jal, wo bist du? Was mir betrifft, mein unterer Rücken und Bauch tun oft weh nach ich gegessen habe. Ich leide unter einer unerklärichen Krankheit, von denen der Grund sich selbst meinem Arzt entzieht. Ich werde mich, auf Diät setzen auf welchem ich kann kein Gluten essen. Wir werden sehen, als das mich wieder auf die Beine bringen wird, denn im Moment tut diese Schmerz wirklich weh.

What's happened to the participants of this thread? Jal, where are you?

For my part, my lower back and abdomen often hurt after I eat. I'm suffering from a mysterious illness, the cause of which even escapes my doctor. I am going to start a diet where I can't eat gluten. We will see if that will make me feel better because for now this pain has become unbearable.

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Au yadra ia au viamoce. A cava au dau oca ina i siga?

Mi kirap na i stap tasol ai bilong mi i hevi. Bilong wanem oltaim skin bilong mi i les long san?
I'm awake but I'm sleepy. Why am I always tired in the day?

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Iē! Au qai moce i na siga taucoko.

Good heavens! I then slept for the whole day.

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Danke, Hwhatting!

Est-ce que tu (ou Linguoboy) peux lire cet extrait que j'ai trouvé d'un dialect allemand qui est mort de nos jours (j'imagine)?

Kartoffelaust in Klein-Baitschen. De Voader kemmt enne Stoaw un seggt to onsem Broder Hans: 'Nimm dien Fuchs utem Stall. Ried noa Sadweitsch un bestell de Fruuns tom Kartoffelläse.'

Can you (or Linguoboy) read this text I found of a German dialect that is dead these days (I imagine)?

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Mi bin raitim wanpela glos ananit long tok Fiji sapos yu laik save pasin bilong mekim sentens long dispela tok.
I wrote a gloss underneath the Fijian in case you'd like to see how sentences are formed.


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Hwhatting et Linguoboy,

C'est un dialecte de l'extrême-est de Prusse-Orientale, autour de la ville de Goldap qui a été l'une des premières villes invahies par les Soviétiques. C'est vraiment chouette que vous soyez arrivés à le comprendre (à l'exception de quelques mots). Je m'interroge s'il y a de vieux allemands qui savent toujours parler ces dialectes, les gens qui sont nés là-bas. J'ai lu que la population allemande de l'après-guerre ont vu cette population comme une marque d'infamie mais je ne suis pas sûr pourquoi (sauf que les Nazis ont reçu beaucoup de soutien dans ces régions [c'était aussi le cas des réfugies de Silésie.]) Donc il ne m'étonnerait pas s'ils se sont assimilés aux dialectes allemands de l'ouest ou de l'est pour cacher leurs racines.

Cette histoire m'a toujours fasciné. Comme celle de ton grand-père, Hwhatting (c'était aussi le cas pour une de mes amies dont ses grandsparents étaient venus de Königsberg). As-tu visité Elbing? As tu envie de retrouver leur maison, s'il elle est toujours là)? Cette région a complétement disparue en termes de son histoire allemande et ces fantômes du passé me fascinent. J'ai une ami polonaise qui a grandi à Allenstein/Olsztyn. Je lui ai demandé si les racines allemandes de cette ville sont toujours là et elle m'a dit que la ville est complétement polonaise sauf quelques vieux batiments. Une autre personne qui vivait à Wroclaw disait pareil, que tout est devenu polonais sauf que parfois on loue un appartement et les robinets disent "Kalt" und "Heiß." Ou en enlevant la façade d'un vieux batiment un vieux panneau apparaît, comme "Bäckerei" ou "Schneider." C'est fascinant à quel point on arrive à effacer l'histoire. Ça s'est également passé pour les Polonais des frontières contemporainnes de Biélorussie. Je me demande si les biélorusses vivent les mêmes fantômes du passé.

Franchement, si je n'étudias pas le français et la linguistiques flamande-francophone de la périphérie de Bruxelles, j'étudierais l'allemand et j'étudierais les anciens dialectes de Prussie-Orientale parmi la vielle population allemande.

Hwhatting and Linguoboy, It's a dialect from the extreme east of East Prussia, around the city of Goldap that was one of the first cities invaded by the Soviets. It's really cool that you two can understand it (with the exception of some words). I wonder if there are still old Germans who know how to speak these dialects, people who were born there. I read that the Post-War German population saw this population as a stigma, but I'm not sure why (except that the Nazis got a lot of support in these regions [this was also the case for refuges from Silesia]). So it wouldn't surprise me if they assimilated to German east and west dialects to hide their roots.

This history has always fascinated me. Like that of your grandfather, Hwhatting (it was also the case for one of my friends whose grandparents came from Königsberg). Have you visiting Elbing? Do you want to find their house, if it's still there)? This region has completely disappeared in terms of its German history and these phantoms of the past fascinate me. I have a Polish friend who grew up in Allenstein/Olsztyn. I asked her if the German roots of that city are still there and she told that the city is completely Polish except a few old buildings. Another person who lined in Wroclaw said the same thing, that everything has become Polish except that sometimes one rents an apartment and the taps say "Kalt" and "Heiß." Or while removing the façade of an old building an old sign appears, like "Bäckerei" or "Schneider." It's fascinating how much we erase history. This also happened to to the Poles of the contemporary boarders of Belarus. I wonder if the Belorussians live these same phantoms of the past.

Frankly, if I didn't study French and Flemish-francophone linguistics of the periphery of Brussels, I'd study German and I'd study East Prussian dialects among older German populations.

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