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This is a quick one - a lepidopterist is someone who studies butterflies, or lepidoptera. I know ptera is the root meaning wing, but the OED is really unhelpful with the root lepido-. Anyone?
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Re: Greek help
Greek λεπις, λεπιδ- meaning "scale".Kai_DaiGoji wrote:This is a quick one - a lepidopterist is someone who studies butterflies, or lepidoptera. I know ptera is the root meaning wing, but the OED is really unhelpful with the root lepido-. Anyone?
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Your question has already been answered, but if you ever need to look up any Greek word, try this:
http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/PERSEU ... e/lsj.html
http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/PERSEU ... e/lsj.html
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#North_wind_.28Boreas.29
I have a question about the name Boreas, specifically the PIE root. I'm contemplating that I might derive a few words for a conlang from there.
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#North_wind_.28Boreas
It's unclear: we aren't even sure if it is definitely IE in origin. Some have suggested *gʷorH- "mountain", which isn't horribly implausible. It remains uncertain, however.Curan Roshac wrote:I have a question about the name Boreas, specifically the PIE root.
EDIT: FWIW, however, there is actually a PIE root meaning "north wind": *(s)k'eh1w(e)r-. It gives English "shower", apparently. The OED seems to disagree, however.
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#North_wind_.28Boreas
I was afraid it might not be IE. Thank you for your time.Dewrad wrote:It's unclear: we aren't even sure if it is definitely IE in origin. Some have suggested *gʷorH- "mountain", which isn't horribly implausible. It remains uncertain, however.Curan Roshac wrote:I have a question about the name Boreas, specifically the PIE root.
EDIT: FWIW, however, there is actually a PIE root meaning "north wind": *(s)k'eh1w(e)r-. It gives English "shower", apparently. The OED seems to disagree, however.
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http://www.stardestroyer.net/
http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#North_wind_.28Boreas
Another Greek question; the etymology of Diadema and how the PIE root might come to develop less for the item a ruler wears on their head or any act of ruling but as the title of ruler itself.Curan Roshac wrote:I was afraid it might not be IE. Thank you for your time.Dewrad wrote:It's unclear: we aren't even sure if it is definitely IE in origin. Some have suggested *gʷorH- "mountain", which isn't horribly implausible. It remains uncertain, however.Curan Roshac wrote:I have a question about the name Boreas, specifically the PIE root.
EDIT: FWIW, however, there is actually a PIE root meaning "north wind": *(s)k'eh1w(e)r-. It gives English "shower", apparently. The OED seems to disagree, however.
[quote="brandrinn"]A right without necessary provisions for its observance is just a cruel joke.
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http://rpusa.info/platform.htm
http://www.stardestroyer.net/
http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/
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http://rpusa.info/platform.htm
http://www.stardestroyer.net/
http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/
Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#North_wind_.28Boreas
I am unable to parse anything beyond "and" in any sensible way. Rather than asking you to rephrase your post in a manner which is comprehensible to other speakers of English (which is demeaning), I shall simply assume that you're asking for the PIE etymon of "diadem". Ultimately, it's from PIE **déh1mṇ "band, something wrapped around." The διά- bit has a PIE etymon as well in *dis- "apart", but it's unlikely that **dis-déh1mṇ is a PIE formation.Curan Roshac wrote:Another Greek question; the etymology of Diadema and how the PIE root might come to develop less for the item a ruler wears on their head or any act of ruling but as the title of ruler itself.
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Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#North_wind_.28Boreas
Dewrad wrote:I am unable to parse anything beyond "and" in any sensible way. Rather than asking you to rephrase your post in a manner which is comprehensible to other speakers of English (which is demeaning), I shall simply assume that you're asking for the PIE etymon of "diadem". Ultimately, it's from PIE **déh1mṇ "band, something wrapped around." The διά- bit has a PIE etymon as well in *dis- "apart", but it's unlikely that **dis-déh1mṇ is a PIE formation.Curan Roshac wrote:Another Greek question; the etymology of Diadema and how the PIE root might come to develop less for the item a ruler wears on their head or any act of ruling but as the title of ruler itself.
Thank you.
And I am a native speaker of English. Whatever difficulty you are having is not at all my fault.
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Yes it is. I think you meant the following, but I'm not sure:Curan Roshac wrote:Thank you.Dewrad wrote:I am unable to parse anything beyond "and" in any sensible way. Rather than asking you to rephrase your post in a manner which is comprehensible to other speakers of English (which is demeaning), I shall simply assume that you're asking for the PIE etymon of "diadem". Ultimately, it's from PIE **déh1mṇ "band, something wrapped around." The διά- bit has a PIE etymon as well in *dis- "apart", but it's unlikely that **dis-déh1mṇ is a PIE formation.Curan Roshac wrote:Another Greek question; the etymology of Diadema and how the PIE root might come to develop less for the item a ruler wears on their head or any act of ruling but as the title of ruler itself.
And I am a native speaker of English. Whatever difficulty you are having is not at all my fault.
"Another Greek question: the etymology of diadema. Also, I'm wondering how the PIE root might (hypothetically) come to develop into a term for the title of a ruler rather than for the item a ruler wears on their head or for the act of ruling."
So take this body at sunset to the great stream whose pulses start in the blue hills, and let these ashes drift from the Long Bridge where only a late gull breaks that deep and populous grave.
Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#North_wind_.28Boreas
A pleasure, as always. It has always been an ambition of mine to serve as a breathing dictionary of etymology.Curan Roshac wrote:Dewrad wrote:I am unable to parse anything beyond "and" in any sensible way. Rather than asking you to rephrase your post in a manner which is comprehensible to other speakers of English (which is demeaning), I shall simply assume that you're asking for the PIE etymon of "diadem". Ultimately, it's from PIE **déh1mṇ "band, something wrapped around." The διά- bit has a PIE etymon as well in *dis- "apart", but it's unlikely that **dis-déh1mṇ is a PIE formation.Curan Roshac wrote:Another Greek question; the etymology of Diadema and how the PIE root might come to develop less for the item a ruler wears on their head or any act of ruling but as the title of ruler itself.
Thank you.
You are not Humpty Dumpty.And I am a native speaker of English. Whatever difficulty you are having is not at all my fault.
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Indeed I did. Sorry for not clarifying.Twpsyn Pentref wrote:Yes it is. I think you meant the following, but I'm not sure:Curan Roshac wrote:Thank you.Dewrad wrote:I am unable to parse anything beyond "and" in any sensible way. Rather than asking you to rephrase your post in a manner which is comprehensible to other speakers of English (which is demeaning), I shall simply assume that you're asking for the PIE etymon of "diadem". Ultimately, it's from PIE **déh1mṇ "band, something wrapped around." The διά- bit has a PIE etymon as well in *dis- "apart", but it's unlikely that **dis-déh1mṇ is a PIE formation.Curan Roshac wrote:Another Greek question; the etymology of Diadema and how the PIE root might come to develop less for the item a ruler wears on their head or any act of ruling but as the title of ruler itself.
And I am a native speaker of English. Whatever difficulty you are having is not at all my fault.
"Another Greek question: the etymology of diadema. Also, I'm wondering how the PIE root might (hypothetically) come to develop into a term for the title of a ruler rather than for the item a ruler wears on their head or for the act of ruling."
[quote="brandrinn"]A right without necessary provisions for its observance is just a cruel joke.
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http://rpusa.info/platform.htm
http://www.stardestroyer.net/
http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/
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http://rpusa.info/platform.htm
http://www.stardestroyer.net/
http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/