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Yesterday I asked a friend if he disdained of risotto pans. My neologising knows no bounds!

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Today I heard a city employee refer to a corrupt politician[*] as "skunky". Previously I'd only heard this term used to describe rancid beer, and it took me a moment to parse it in this context.


[*] I know, a redundant expression here in Illinois.


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A few times in the past, I've heard people use a verb "to verse" meaning "compete against". As in, Do you want to verse me?

It's a back-formation from "versus", with the Latin-derived "-us" /-əz/ being reanalyzed as a 3s verb ending.

Some dude versus some other dude → "Some dude vers-es some other dude"

I haven't heard it recently, but I distinctly remember it being used on a few occasions. Can't cite specific quotes, though.

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Also, I broke all your metal ropes and used them to feed the cheeseburgers. Yes, today just keeps getting better, doesn't it?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:21 pm 
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I've heard it frequently too. Concur on widespread.

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I have some sort of strange (well, it may well be widespread) animacy or pronoun/noun contrast thing going on with word order in dative-shifts. A noun may be dative shifted:

'I gave the man the box'

And pronouns may be dative shifted:

'I gave him the box'

'I gave him it'

But a noun, when the recipient, cannot take a pronominal theme without the word order switching:

*'I gave the man it' > 'I gave it the man'.

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At, casteda dus des ometh coisen at tusta o diédem thum čisbugan. Ai, thiosa če sane búem mos sil, ne?
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Also, following a discussion on another thread: can you guys dative-shift in the passive?

'It was given the boy by his mum' - it was given to the boy by his mum

To be fair this sentence would also allow exactly the same placings with 'to', and it's possible to analyse my weird dative shiftings as dropping of 'to' LIKE a dative shift but with standard syntax, which would explain this sentence just as well.

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I can't, but I don't think I can dative shift with pronouns at all.

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Does anyone else find themselves using 'hard' as a adverb generally meaning 'vigourously, a lot, strongly' for any verb? It's common with certain verbs (like 'work hard') but I use it (and I think I remember hearing it used) more liberally, like in 'running hard' or 'I care really hard about this' or 'she grabbed it hard'.

And the other day I said 'elsewhere' to change a subject, like one would say (in my area at least) 'anyways' or 'okay'. Not sure why I chose that word, but it seemed to fit.

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How is "amn't" pronounced?

Hmm... It seems that the use of "en de que" (some extension of good ol' dequeísmo) is not so Salvadorian as I thought. Apparently there's a song by this Cuban-Spaniard singer called Elsa Baeza with the title "En de que te vi".

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I noticed tonight how funny the word "claustrophobic" is in my dialect, namely that it can be used to describe a person affected by claustrophobia ("I am claustrophobic") as in standard, but it can also be used to describe a situation that induces claustrophobia ("That room is so claustrophobic"). Interesting, and I'm fairly certain this is quite widespread, or at the very least, doesn't sound strange because I have definitely heard it from others before.

*edit* Also I discussed earlier with a suitemate pluralizing "fruit leather"...he went with "10 fruit leathers" (I had just bought 10...go ahead and judge :P), while I went with "10 strips of fruit leather". "Fruit leathers" feels wrong to me because I'm fairly certain you can't pluralize "leather" (is it a collective noun? I don't think it is...)...what are the thoughts of the ZBB with regards to this?


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