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In the dialect here, here being southeastern Wisconsin, /eɪ oʊ/ tend to be [e o] before consonants and, depending on the speaker and often just free variation*, either [e o] or [ei ou] - note the close offglide - finally or before another vowel. Note that I do not mark these with length, because length is not phonemic in the dialect here.

* I personally consistently used [ei ou] here as a little kid, but now I use [e o] finally and [e~ei ou] before another vowel.

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Congratulations for repeating that I shouldn't be using 'productive' instead of telling me what to call it instead.


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Can anyone with a knowledge of Chinese help me satisfy a curiosity? Every single Chinese student I have ever taught French has the same accent feature. I can't really describe it much and I can't share audio files from my students but it involves the letter combination <tr> which in French is /tR/ and it sounds like the stop is lightly pronounced. Is anyone here familiar with Chinese speakers of French and could perhaps shed light on what this phenomenon is. It's just remarkable that it seems to be without failure for every single Chinese speaker I've had (and I have no idea if they speak Mandarin or Cantonese, etc.)

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Probably just an unfamiliar consonant cluster. they don't really have them in chinese


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I discovered today that my grandfather misconjugates verbs. I think he's always done this but I just never really noticed it. He says things like "they says" and "she don't." I'm curious why he would do this (my grandma certainly does not do it). All I can think is it's because of his very working class urban raising in the 1930s. Does anyone else have grandparents born and raised in the US who misconjugate verbs? It's stranger yet because it's very random. It's almost as if he's trying to mark something.

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Hm, I guess I must have missed that amid all the irrelevant examples.


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