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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:19 pm 
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My roommates, who are from New York City, sometimes use a rather strange verb: fucks - as in, that's the base, uninflected form. It only appears after the auxiliary can, as in "I can fucks with that" or "He can fucks with that." Fucks with means "to manage, handle, or work with [something]", clearly distinct from to fuck with [something].

I kept trying to elicit a third-person singular finite form from them, to see if it was fuckses (*He fuckses with that - ??) but they would only produce it with can.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:14 am 
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'Fuck with' in that sense is definitely used without the -s in some American dialects - I think AAVE.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:12 am 
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I could see myself using fuck around with in that sense.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:54 am 
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Maybe not really innovative, but I recently noticed my mom saying didn't wanted.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:23 am 
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From MSN:

The gain in Amazon stock' price added nearly $7 billion (£5.3bn) to his wealth overnight

It could just be a random typo, but they appear to be treating the apostrophe as a generic marker of possession, and thinking that "the Amazon stock price" is a possessive (the price of the Amazon stock).

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:56 am 
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That's pretty common without the apostrophe, at least in headlines. I googled "stock price" just now and found "AMZN Stock Price," "DWDP Stock Price," "BABA Stock Price," "T Stock Price," "PayPal Stock Price"...


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:28 pm 
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Yes, of course, "stock price" is just an ordinary noun, but "stock' price" is innovative.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:34 pm 
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So then "the Amazon stock price" is a possessive, isn't it?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:31 pm 
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Personally, I don't think the distinction between compound nouns and possession in English is a very clear one, but that's probably a matter of debate, and your mileage may vary. EDIT: I also just realized I didn't know what a "stock car" was. EDIT2: In fact, what does "the stock's car" mean?


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It looks like they originally wrote it with 's, and then decided to delete the s and forgot to delete the apostrophe for some reason


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:58 am 
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"reoccurring"

Our financial manager just gave an overview of the budget and she must have said this half a dozen times.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:19 pm 
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What's innovative about that?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:37 pm 
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But it's a separate word.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:45 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:42 am 
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Might be just me, but I primarily associate “recur” with “recurse” and not “reoccur”.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:44 am 
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I didn't even know "recurse" was a word until now. It sounds like it means 'to curse again'. :P


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:52 pm 
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I do not find reoccur to be that notable of an innovation (as I definitely hear it in use). As for recurse, that is a word you would know if you were a programmer.

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