The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

[Aurora Rossa]

I pronounce them [hɚɹi] and [fɚɹi] respectively.

[ol bofosh]

['hɐ.ɹʷɪi] ˈ['fœː.ɹʷɪi]

[Thry]

How do you say venae cavae?

[Bob Johnson]

How do you say venae cavae?

[ˈveɪnə ˈkævəz]

i'm not a doctor but i've watched many on TV

[Thry]

That's the first time I've seen -ae as a schwa and spontaneous ghost -s's.

Aw, I thought it would be [vi:ni: kheI.vi:] or something.

[Bob Johnson]

That's the first time I've seen -ae as a schwa and spontaneous ghost -s's.

strange things happen when rough phonetic borrowings from dead languages that aren't ever used in common speech are involved

[----]

I have the hurry-furry merger; [hɹ̩i] - [fɹ̩i]

[Pinetree]

How do you say venae cavae?

['we.naɪ 'ka.waɪ]

[Thry]

You can't hide your English accent - [aI] for [aj] and also [e:].

['be.nas 'ka.Bas] in my dialect

kawaiiii desuuuu

[Pinetree]

You can't hide your English accent - [aI] for [aj] and also [e:].

['be.nas 'ka.Bas] in my dialect

kawaiiii desuuuu

Dialect? This is Latin, isn't it? Are you a native speaker of Latin?

[Melteor]

How do you guys say 'squish'?

[Zontas]

How do you guys say 'squish'?

/sːkwɪʃː/

[Zontas]

How do you say venae cavae?

/vɛ'nɛː kæv'ɛː/

[AnTeallach]

['hɐ.ɹʷɪi] ˈ['fœː.ɹʷɪi]

Yay, someone else who rounds the NURSE vowel.

They're roughly [ˈhɞɹɪ] and [ˈfœːɹɪ] for me, though the end vowel varies a lot.

[finlay]

[aI] for [aj]

wow, you can hear a difference?!?!?!~~

this is like that guy who complained about the inaudible difference between [kʷ] and [kw]

[L'alphabētarium]

['vɛ.nɛ 'ka.vɛ]* and [skwɪʃ] or [skʷɪʃ]

_{*I have reasons to stand by my choice...}

[Ser]

That's the first time I've seen -ae as a schwa and spontaneous ghost -s's.

Aw, I thought it would be [vi:ni: kheI.vi:] or something.

Yes, [ˈviːni ˈkʰeɪvi]. (Word final unstressed [i‏] is pronounced short, even in SSBE, which is why there's even a separate set for it, the HAPPY set.)

You can't hide your English accent - [aI] for [aj] and also [e:].

['be.nas 'ka.Bas] in my dialect

kawaiiii desuuuu

Dialect? This is Latin, isn't it? Are you a native speaker of Latin?

Well, yeah, kinda. In the same way you're a native speaker of PIE (but 21st century PIE). In the dialect of Paris it'd be [venekaˈve] too.

[ol bofosh]

venae cavae
At a guess, [ˈvɪ.nɛi ˈkɐː.vɛi]

squish [skwɪʃ]

Yay, someone else who rounds the NURSE vowel.

[Thry]

Yes, [ˈviːni ˈkʰeɪvi]. (Word final unstressed is pronounced short, even in SSBE, which is why there's even a separate set for it, the HAPPY set.)

Interesting - same for algae then I guess? What is SSBE (I guess it's not SSBE :: Swiss Society for Biomedical Engineering, or is it?).

You can't hide your English accent - [aI] for [aj] and also [e:].

['be.nas 'ka.Bas] in my dialect

kawaiiii desuuuu

Dialect? This is Latin, isn't it? Are you a native speaker of Latin?

SIC ILLVM SVM IBI
[si lo soj]

Naturally, I was born in Hispania!
Step back barbarian.

[Ser]

Yay, someone else who rounds the NURSE vowel.

Whenever I read descriptions of English phonology NURSE is always described as basically [ɵ] or [ɵ˞] (a rounded vowel higher than the schwa), where "ɜ/ɜ˞" is basically legacy code in English phonetics from early 20th century linguistics (Ladefoged and Maddieson even have no problem drawing a diagram with <ɜ> higher than <ə>, admitting convention often goes over whatever the IPAssociation would like)

Interesting - same for algae then I guess? What is SSBE (I guess it's not SSBE :: Swiss Society for Biomedical Engineering, or is it?).

[æɫdʒi].

SSBE stands for "Standard Southern British English", basically today's growing standard pronunciation in England in comparison to the RP that Jones described in the early 20th century. RP /ʊə/ is now merged with /ɔː/ (<poor> [pʰɔː]), RP /æ/ [æ] is lowered to a mostly-front [a], RP /ʌ/ [ʌ] is centralized to [ɐ], and other things.

[Thry]

[aI] for [aj]

wow, you can hear a difference?!?!?!~~

yes, I can hear a difference between a Spanish person saying "like" properly and one saying laic.
Nevertheless, no, that's not what I was saying, it's the way he transcribed it what made it obvious it was not a Latin/romance/non-English native!

[Ser]

We're talking about a language when it was spoken about 2050 years ago. How do you know they pronounced it [ai] and not [aɪ]? In fact there are some who prefer [aɛ̯].

[Thry]

yes, I can hear a difference between a Spanish person saying "like" properly and one saying laic.
Nevertheless, no, that's not what I was saying, it's the way he transcribed it what made it obvious it was not a Latin/romance/non-English native!

[Ser]

But if I'm wrong, how does the following exchange make sense?

How do you say venae cavae?

['we.naɪ 'ka.waɪ]

You can't hide your English accent - [aI] for [aj] and also [e:].

The correction of [e] > [e:] makes sense only if we're talking about imitating 1st century BC Latin, but then [aI] > [aj] can hardly be argued for...

[Pole, the]

How do you say venae cavae?

['we.naɪ 'ka.waɪ]

Kawaiiiiii. <3