The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

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debris

Mark stress if you feel it's necessary

[Shrdlu]

Error?
For me it would something like [erɔr] but I'm non-native

[Nortaneous]

/dəˈbri/ [dəˈbɹɯi̯]
/er̯ɚ/ [ˈʔeɚ̯.ɚ] (or even more narrowly [ˈʔeɚ̯̂ː] with the length on the second element of the diphthong)

[ol bofosh]

[ˈdɛ.bʋ͡ɹʷˠɪi̯]
[ˈɛ.ʋ͡ɹʷˠɜ]

[Matrix]

something: [sʌm.θɪŋ], [sʌm.θɪn], or [sʌ̃ʔ.m̩]
debris: [dəˈbɹi]
error: [ɛɹ.ɹ̩]

[Bristel]

debris
[dəˈbɹiː]~[ˈde.bɹiː], sometimes with [ɛ] for good measure.

[CatDoom]

My 'error' is [ˈɛɹ.ɚ], unless I'm trying to sound like a robot, in which case it would be [ɛɹ.ɔ˞], with roughly equal stress on each syllable.

As for debris, I consistently say [dəˈbɹi].

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"recognize"

[PVER•PVERVM•AMAT]

'Recognize'? /rekəgnaɪz/ I don't believe anyone says anything else, though in narrow transcription mine is [ɹʷɛkəgnäɪ̯z].

[linguoboy]

I find it sounds equally acceptable to me with a second /g/ replacing the /k/, but I don't know anyone for whom that's the primary pronunciation.

[Pole, the]

"round"

Does anybody have a monophthong here?

[PVER•PVERVM•AMAT]

For 'round', I have /raʊnd/. I believe strong Geordie and Scottish accents have /ruːnd/.

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'Recognize'? /rekəgnaɪz/ I don't believe anyone says anything else, though in narrow transcription mine is [ɹʷɛkəgnäɪ̯z].

I was just curious because myself and a lot of other people around here seem to elide the /g/ to nothing a lot of the time. I didn't know if that was a common way of saying it.

I don't think I would ever say "round" in particular with a monophthong, but I do say /aʊ/ as [æ(ə??)] in some environments unknown to me.

[Travis B.]

'Recognize'? /rekəgnaɪz/ I don't believe anyone says anything else, though in narrow transcription mine is [ɹʷɛkəgnäɪ̯z].

I was just curious because myself and a lot of other people around here seem to elide the /g/ to nothing a lot of the time. I didn't know if that was a common way of saying it.

I personally elide the /g/ in recognize as a matter of course.

[ol bofosh]

recognise [ˈʋ͡ɹɛ.kəg.nɐɪ̯z] (no eliding)

round [ɹ͡ʋæʊ̯nd]
Often monopthongizes to [ɹ͡ʋæːnd]

[PVER•PVERVM•AMAT]

Ol bofosh, are you, perchance, from East London? Your pronunciations of 'recognize' and 'round' strike me as Cockney.

[Nortaneous]

"Recognize" without /g/ strikes me as an AAVE thing, but there are a lot of things that strike me as AAVE things that are probably just not as conservative as what I'd say. (Do white people say "put it up" for "put it away"?)

"round"

Does anybody have a monophthong here?

I might say [ɹæ̃ː], but not when I'm paying attention -- it's [ɹæ̃ːɞ̯nd] or so in isolation. (I'm still not sure how to transcribe that diphthong, but it's not [au̯] at all. The first element is [æ], and the second is something like a rounded schwa.)

[ol bofosh]

Ol bofosh, are you, perchance, from East London? Your pronunciations of 'recognize' and 'round' strike me as Cockney.

Almost. Certainly Cockney influenced. South East England has adopted a lot of Cockney-type features. I have bits of Cockney and RP (i.e. Estuary).

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"Recognize" without /g/ strikes me as an AAVE thing, but there are a lot of things that strike me as AAVE things that are probably just not as conservative as what I'd say. (Do white people say "put it up" for "put it away"?)

I might say [ɹæ̃ː], but not when I'm paying attention -- it's [ɹæ̃ːɞ̯nd] or so in isolation. (I'm still not sure how to transcribe that diphthong, but it's not [au̯] at all. The first element is [æ], and the second is something like a rounded schwa.)

I'd say 'put up' and 'put away' are both fine, but there's some kind of semantic difference between them that I'm not sure of right now. I think it has to do with the kind of object involved. When you say "Do white people say 'put it up' for 'put it away'" do you mean '[most white people don't say "put it up" for any kind of whatever and] AAVE speakers usually say "put it up" for most whatevers.' or do you mean something similar to what I'm saying--that both are possible in non-AAVE speech but AAVE speakers merge them?

(2) I have the same reservations against transcribing the vowel in <coat> as /oʊ/. I don't think the first element is actually rounded for a lot of speakers in America (just the South?). I'm much more pleased with transcribing it as /ʌu/ but then that's weird too because I don't think the English /ʌ/ is actually a back vowel. I get the whole thing about the symbols just being traditional ways of writing those sounds and IPA being arbitrary etc. etc. but it still seems wrong *inside*.

[Matrix]

I say [kʰoʊ̯t̚] for coat. But then, I'm Canadian.

[KathTheDragon]

I'm pretty sure my /ʌ/ is a back vowel, and I know that the first element of /oʊ/ is rounded, because for me, /s/ is realised as [sʷ] before any rounded vowel.

[ol bofosh]

[kʰəʉt] for me.

Also, news on recognise, I could myself geminating the n last night: [ˈʋɹɛ.kənːɐɪ̯z]. I don't know if that's normal, or if that only happened cos I was too tired to speak properly.

[TaylorS]

How do people pronounce "wolf" and "wolves"? I have just noticed that the vowel in the later is becoming more open and more tense.

[wʊɫf] ~ [wɫ̩f]
[wɔˑɫvz]

[TaylorS]

11/12.

(I mean, the fraction. Like two thirds, only 11/12.)

[əˈɫɛvn̩ tʰwɛɫs]

[Nortaneous]

Theta: My impression (which could be wrong) is that "put it up" is strictly limited to AAVE and maybe the Southern dialects that influenced it, with "put it away" being its equivalent everywhere else. "Put it up" is never valid IMI.