The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

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[ˈsɛkn̩d]
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.

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birds aren't real wrote: What happens to /jur/? (For me it varies between [j@r] and [jor], usually the former.)
The same here, I think.

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Matrix wrote:[ˈsɛkn̩d]
[sɛ̞kn̩ʔ]

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vokzhen wrote:Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.
varies between d and t for me, and I hear it with t sometimes
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vokzhen wrote:Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.
This sounds annoyingly American-Californian-high-school-teen to me (oh em gee SO in sync ! that kind of thing). But perhaps the actual realization is less bad than that I would pronounce your IPA here.

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[ˈsɛ.kən(d) ~ ˈsɛ.k͡ʔn̩(d)]
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vokzhen wrote:Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.
Mine's about the same, though the final consonant may be more of an unreleased t [t̚] than a simple glottal stop. Based on some impromptu experimentation, I think I might be more prone to pronounce the final consonant as [d] when the following word begins with a sonorant, possibly with re-syllabification. So "second one" is something like [sɛk(ɨ̃)n dwən].

Incidentally, I am from California, though it's been some time since I was in high school. :P

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CatDoom wrote:
vokzhen wrote:Afaict it's almost always [sɛk(ɨ̃)nʔ]. Without spelling interference I'd definitely transcribe the last consonant as /t/.
Mine's about the same, though the final consonant may be more of an unreleased t [t̚] than a simple glottal stop. Based on some impromptu experimentation, I think I might be more prone to pronounce the final consonant as [d] when the following word begins with a sonorant, possibly with re-syllabification. So "second one" is something like [sɛk(ɨ̃)n dwən].

Incidentally, I am from California, though it's been some time since I was in high school. :P
Actually, your example made me rethink it a bit. It's probably actually [sɛkɨ̃(n)ʔ] for me, as in "second one" alveolar contact isn't present or only present rarely, afaict. (Or maybe [sɛk(ɨ̃)(n)ʔ], depending on context, but a) that's ugly, and b) I probably do always have a vowel there, but when there is an actual [n] present, it just feels like it's transition from one POA to another, not a "real" vowel).

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<rather>

[ɻɑðɚ] or perhaps better transcribed as [ɻɑðɻ̩]. Not sure if those are actually different or not.

A lot of my /ɻ/s are also strongly labialized, as in <red>, but I feel like it is not in the case of <rather>. I cannot figure out what the triggering condition is, perhaps labialized if followed by a non-low vowel.
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[ɹʷɑðə]

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[ɻʷæ̞ðɚ] ~ [ɻʷaðɚ]

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[ɹæðɹ̩]
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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[ˈʋ͡ɹɐː.ðə]

You might call that a strongly labialised /r/ :wink:
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How do you pronounce "ne", e.g. in "thou ne art"?
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I don't. Is it Middle English or something? What does it even mean/is its gramatical function?

My instinct tells me /ni:/, second (outside) option: /nej/. Me: [nɪi̯ ~ nɛɪ̯ ]

Edit: actually, my first instinct was a Monty Python style "Ni!" :P
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My first instinct was /ˈneː/ as well, because whether such a sentence is genuinely Middle English or not, it looks it and so I automatically default to pre-GVS values.

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If it had survived to Modern English I imagine it'd be like 'the', i.e. with a schwa normally but /i/ before vowels.

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you n'are

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product /ɑ/
productive /ə/
productivity /oː/

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Same as you, but 'productivity' is like 'product'.

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product /ɒ/
productive /ə/
productivity /ɒ/

and...
produce (v) /ə/
produce (n) /ɒ/

ˈpʰʋ͡ɹʷˠɒ.dɐkt
pʰʋ͡ɹʷˠə.ˈdɐk.tɪ̈v
ˌpʰʋ͡ɹʷˠɒ.dɐk.ˈtɪ.vɪ̈.tɪɨ̯
pʰʋ͡ɹʷˠə.ˈd͡ʒjʏʉ̯s
ˈpʰʋ͡ɹʷˠɒ.d͡ʒjʏʉ̯s
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[ˈpʰɹɑɾʌkt]
[pʰɹəˈdʌktɪv]
[ˌpʰɹɑɾʌkˈtɪvɪɾi]
[pʰɹəˈdus]
[ˈpʰɹoʊ̯dus]
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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ˈprɑˌdʌkt
prəˈdʌktɨv
ˈprɑˌdʌkˈˈtɪvɨtɨ

also I was listening to a lecture a while back and heard [sɛkəntʰ] for 'second' so devoicing there is a thing
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[ˈpʰɞ̯˞ɔːɾ̠ɜkʰɾ̥]
[pʰɝˈɾ̠ʌkʰɾ̥ᵻv]
[ˌpʰɞ̯˞ɔːɾ̠ɜk̚ˈtʰɪvᵻɾi]

[pʰɝˈɾ̠ʉs]
[ˈpʰɞ̯˞ɵʊ̯ˌ̠ɾ̠ʉs]

[ˈsɛkʰᵻn̥]

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