No.Vlürch wrote: [kɾɑi̯sis], [kɾit̪ik], [st̪ei̯sis], [st̪æt̪ik], [pɾost̪ʰe̞sis], [pɾɔst̪ʰe̞tik], [nʲjeʊ̯ɾɔsis], [nʲjəʊ̯ɾɔt̪ik]
As a general point: -ic and -is always have short /I/, not long /i/. Not distinguishing the qualities of these is one of the most stereotypical "silly foreigner accent" mistakes.
[And it may even lead to a confusion in the case of your 'critic', which you pronounce more like 'critique'. "Critic" should have two short vowels.]
I'm not sure what you've got going on in your 'neurosis/neurotic', with "[eʊ̯]" vs "[əʊ̯]". The first syllable of each should probably be /njU/ or /njU@/, though the confluence of a followign rhotic and lack of stress make it hard to work out in general. If you can't manage /U/, I'd go with /u/.
Also, they 'should' have a /sT/ cluster, but /st/ isn't uncommon even among native speakers so don't worry.
No.[ænɐlɑi̯sis], [ænɐlit̪ik], [me̞t̪ɑst̪ei̯sis], [me̞t̪ɑst̪æt̪ik]Sumelic wrote:stress shift: analysis-analytic, metastasis, metastatic.
Again, short /I/ in -ic, and also the penult in -ic words - "analytic" is as though it were written "anna-littick". "Meta" has... ok, maybe you're "[e̞]" isn't wrong, actually, though it's not how I'd usually write that sound. [for clarity: it's lower than /e/ but higher than /E/, and more central than either - it's usually indicated as a variant of the latter, but I guess that's just convention].
The other two places you've gone wrong here are understandable, to be honest. "Analysis" and "metastasis" both have antepenultimate stress, not penultimate as you've gone for. However, "metastasis" with penultimate stress does sound like a word - it sounds like some sort of second-level ('meta-') stasis.
Yeah, it's one of the genuine pitfalls of English. Essentially the problem is that there are multiple contradictory rules.Sorry, I have no idea about stress
Someone may have a better idea than me, but I think in general:
- classical loans tend to have antepenultimate stress
- but some old loans, and old endings, developed penultimate stress instead
- there can be additional confusion when there are prefixes to independently valid roots, which may destress the prefix even when they 'shouldn't'
- there can also be interference from rules about stress and parts of speech
- in some cases, original vowel length in Latin may be relevent?
It's confusing, and native speakers can easily get mixed up when they come across a word they've not heard spoken before. Some words may have two pronunciations depending on context, while others are just a mess (eg "controversy", where both antepenultimate and penultimate (well, initial with secondary penultimate) stress forms are common, even in the speech of a single speaker.
Of the more-than-two-syllable words here:
- prosthesis and neurosis: penults! I think -osis is pretty much always penultimate, and -thesis may be too, with the really notable exception of the antepenultimate stress in "hypothesis".
- analysis and metastasis: antepenults with short vowels (due to trisyllabic laxing in the first case).
- words in -ic: penults, but with short vowels
And then there's "emesis". I've always pronounced this with long penultimate stress, to rhyme with "tmesis" and "plasmapheresis", but short antepenultimate stress is also conceptually valid.