The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

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Umega wrote:
YngNghymru wrote:
Umega wrote:[hɛːɻ] for both hair and heir
'heir' does not have an /h/ in it
notice it says 'how do YOU pronounce X'
either a) you are failing at transcription yet again or b) you just don't know how to pronounce 'heir'
كان يا ما كان / يا صمت العشية / قمري هاجر في الصبح بعيدا / في العيون العسلية

tà yi póbo tsùtsùr ciivà dè!

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Umega wrote:notice it says 'how do YOU pronounce X'
Notice how that doesn't prevent anyone from telling you you're wrong.

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Astraios wrote:
Umega wrote:notice it says 'how do YOU pronounce X'
Notice how that doesn't prevent anyone from telling you you're wrong.
one at a time

no one cares when i say it wrong and i'm not the only person I know who says it like this, i pronounce the h to distinguish it from air.

especially in the middle of sentence
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Like it's ever going to be ambiguous. Humouring you a little bit, in your new situation, how do you distinguish it from "hair"? :roll:

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context, i might drop the lenghtening on hair
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Lies.

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I am serious
that's exactly how i say it
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Mr. Z wrote:How do you pronounce hair, her and heir?
hair: [hɛɹˤ]
her: [hɝˤ]
heir: [ɛɹˤ]

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TaylorS wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:How do you pronounce hair, her and heir?
hair: [hɛɹˤ]
her: [hɝˤ]
heir: [ɛɹˤ]
the phar. ization seems fishy
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No, it doesn't. Lern2phonetix.

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lemme see, okay i'll take your word for it (looking at Taylor's location)

also why are you debating me on why i can't pronounce english correctly says it can be your variation
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You've shown several times before that you either can't transcribe or you can't speak English properly. Take your pick.

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I suck.at.speaking.english

but i usually excell at foreign languages when i take them
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"cuneiform" as [kiw.nɛi.I.fo@`m] or [kiw.nɛi.@.fo@`m]

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hair: [ˈhɛ̝(ː)ʁˤ]
her: [ˈ(h)ʁ̩ˤ(ː)] (independent), [ʁ̩ˤ(ː)] (clitic)
heir: [ˈɛ̝(ː)ʁˤ]
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Umega wrote:I suck.at.speaking.english

but i usually excell at foreign languages when i take them
Just fuck off already. Do you speak an English variety, and I mean either natively or otherwise fluently? Do you even understand the phonology of English varieties overall well? Do you know how to use IPA proficiently, know what it actually represents at a featural level, and know how to recognize the sounds represented by most IPA symbols you would encounter for representing English varieties from hearing them?

If you said no to any of these questions, you have no right to comment here, seriously.

(And I still have not discounted that you're simply a troll either.)
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Travis B. wrote:
Umega wrote:I suck.at.speaking.english

but i usually excell at foreign languages when i take them
Just fuck off already. Do you speak an English variety, and I mean either natively or otherwise fluently? Do you even understand the phonology of English varieties overall well?

If you said no to any of these questions, you have no right to comment here, seriously.

(And I still have not discounted that you're simply a troll either.)
Just go fuck yourself if you insist on cursing

1. yes-native
2.i seriously have a speech impediment , but for most words my dialect is GA english, i understand the phonology in major dialects , also the title says how do YOU PRONOUNCE x not how is x SUPPOSED TO PRONOUNCED IN YOUR DIALECT
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Umega wrote:
Travis B. wrote:
Umega wrote:I suck.at.speaking.english

but i usually excell at foreign languages when i take them
Just fuck off already. Do you speak an English variety, and I mean either natively or otherwise fluently? Do you even understand the phonology of English varieties overall well?

If you said no to any of these questions, you have no right to comment here, seriously.

(And I still have not discounted that you're simply a troll either.)
Just go fuck yourself if you insist on cursing

1. yes-native
2.i seriously have a speech impediment , but for most words my dialect is GA english, i understand the phonology in major dialects , also the title says how do YOU PRONOUNCE x not how is x SUPPOSED TO PRONOUNCED IN YOUR DIALECT
The shit you've put into your 'English' transcriptions makes your claim to speak General American highly questionable. And no, you do NOT understand the specific phonologies of major dialects. The fact that you questioned the pharyngealization in TaylorS's rhotic proves that.
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i meant REALLY major and reread my post.
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Didn't miss anything the first time. And yes I checked.
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closer [ˈkʰɫoʊ.sɚ]
cuneiform [kʰu.ˈnɛ.i.ˌfɔɹm]

hair [ˈhɛɚ]~[ˈhɛɹ]
her [ˈhɚ]
heir [ˈʔɛɚ]~[ˈʔɛɹ]
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closer- [kɫ̥oʊsʷɜ˞ˤ]
cuneiform- [cçʉnɨfɔɹʷˤm]
hair- [heɜ˞ˤ]
*her- [hɜ˞ˤ]
heir- [ʔeɜ˞ˤ]

*The only time I really pronounce an /h/ here is when it begins a sentence or it's by itself, or I'm emphasizing the word. It's pretty much dropped in almost all situations. ex. "I saw her" [ʔaɪ sɒɜ˞ˤ].
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Drydic Guy wrote:Didn't miss anything the first time. And yes I checked.
bullet two, first few words
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Umega, Drydic Guy, please don't turn this thread into a flaming war.
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NO IT IS YOU WHO IS WRONG
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