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Wow, I was thinking of contributing to this thread, but judging by the transcriptions here I can't go into anywhere near the expected level of detail... I guess I'll record my voice when I get the chance and just let anyone who's interested "analyse" it...


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:39 pm 
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Okay, here are my other past transcriptions in this thread, but with similar phonemic transcriptions added:

closer as in nearer: /ˈklosər/ > [ˈkʰʟ̞os̻ʁ̩ˤ(ː)]~[ˈkʰɰos̻ʁ̩ˤ(ː)]
closer as in a baseball pitcher: /ˈklozər/ > [ˈkʰʟ̞oːz̻ʁ̩ˤ(ː)]~[ˈkʰɰoːz̻ʁ̩ˤ(ː)]
cuneiform: /ˈkjuniˌfɔrm/ > [ˈk̟ʰj̠ũː(n)iˌfɔ(ː)ʁˤm]
hair: /ˈher/ > [ˈhɛ̝(ː)ʁˤ]
her: /ˈ(h)ər/ > [ˈ(h)ʁ̩ˤ(ː)] (independent), /ər/ > [ʁ̩ˤ(ː)] (clitic)
heir: /ˈer/ > [ˈɛ̝(ː)ʁˤ]
home (verb): /ˈhom/ > [ˈho(ː)m]
home (noun): /ˈhom/ > [ˈho(ː)m] or sometimes, particularly when less stressed in informal speech, /ˈom/ > [ˈo(ː)m]
coordinate (noun): /ˈk(w)ɔrdɪnɪt/ > [ˈkʰ(w)ɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːnɨʔ]~[ˈkʰ(w)ɔ̂ːʁˤnːɨʔ], carefully also /koˈwɔrdɪnɪt/ > [kʰoːˈwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːnɨʔ]~[ˈkʰoːˈwɔ̂ːʁˤnːɨʔ] ~ /kəˈwɔrdɪnɪt/ > [kʰəːˈwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːnɨʔ]~[ˈkʰəːˈwɔ̂ːʁˤnːɨʔ] (the separate phonemic transcriptions for the careful pronunciations with differing vowels is because vowel reduction is not predictable in this initial syllable, as it does not necessarily affect all cases of co- here)
coordinate (verb): /ˈkwɔrdɪˌnet/ > [ˈkʰwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːˌneʔ]~[ˈkʰwɔ̂ːʁˤnˌneʔ], carefully also /koˈwɔrdɪˌnet/ > [kʰoːˈwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːˌneʔ]~[ˈkʰoːˈwɔ̂ːʁˤnˌneʔ] ~ /kəˈwɔrdɪˌnet/ > [kʰəːˈwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːˌneʔ]~[ˈkʰəːˈwɔ̂ːʁˤnˌneʔ] (the separate phonemic transcriptions for the careful pronunciations with differing vowels is because vowel reduction is not predictable in this initial syllable, as it does not necessarily affect all cases of co- here)
laboratory: /ˈlɛbrəˌtɔri/ > [ˈʟ̞ɛːbɰˤəˌtʰɔːʁˤi(ː)]~[ˈɰɛːbɰˤəˌtʰɔːʁˤi(ː)]
year: /ˈjɪr/ > [ˈjɪ(ː)ʁˤ]
quart: /ˈkwɔrt/ > [ˈkʰwɔʁˤʔ]
quarter: /ˈkwɔrtər/ > [ˈkʰwɔʁˤ(ɾ̥)ʁ̩ˤ(ː)]
mirror: /ˈmɪr/ > [ˈmɪ(ː)ʁˤ]
near: /ˈnɪr/ > [ˈnɪ(ː)ʁˤ]
nearer: /ˈnɪrər/ > [ˈnɪːʁˤʁ̩ˤ(ː)]
irrespective: /ɪrrɪˈspɜktɪv/ > [ɪːʁˤːɨˈs̻pɜʔk̚tɨːf]
irresponsible: /ɪrrɪˈspansɪbəl/ > [ɪːʁˤːɨˈs̻pãntsɨːbɯ̞(ː)]
irrational: /ɪrˈrɛʃɪnəl/ > [ɪːʁˤˈʁˤɛʃɨ̃ːnɯ̞(ː)]
irrevocable: /ɪrˈrɜvəkəbəl/ > [ɪːʁˤˈʁˤɜːvəɡ̊əːbɯ̞(ː)]
irradiate: /ɪrˈrediˌet/ > [ɪːʁˤˈʁˤeːɾiːˌeʔ]~[ɪːʁˤˈʁˤeːjːˌeʔ]
iridescent: /ɪrɪˈdɜsɪnt/ > [ɪːʁˤɨːˈdɜsɨ̃ʔ]
irritate: /ɪrɪˈtet/ > [ɪːʁˤɨˈtʰeʔ]

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:59 pm 
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Just to be picky again, could you possibly make it a darker shade of red so that it's easier to read? At the moment it's a bit garish.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:16 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:24 pm 
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Aigh, these phonemic transcriptions of mine bother me... They work perfectly well for normal words... as long as you do not give a fuck about frequencies of different forms that ought to be predictable in theory (but are not in practice)... and they completely go to hell when you consider contracted forms, common grammar words, specific other common words, and interjections. They are so neat and nice-looking, yet obviously correspond to a toy phonology underneath it all...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:34 pm 
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That doesn't really matter, since to some extent all phonemic transcriptions are that. Don't worry about it too much, I just quite want a less dense version that represents your mental pronunciation in a more readable fashion. Because the detailed phonetic ones are interesting, sure, but they're less readable. For example, I didn't realise until you did the broader one that you stress a different syllable on 'irrevocable' than I do (I say irrevócable, but you say irrévocable) – the information is in the narrow transcription, but it's hidden between several other markings.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:30 am 
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I've just noticed I tend to say [mɑɫɐkʌɪʔ] with ɑ – I think this must be some kind of allophonic thing I have before /l/. I remember asking how people say "alphabet" and I was the only one that said [ɑɫ]phabet rather than /æl/phabet – I think this is maybe because I don't really have a proper opposition between [æ~a~ɑ] IMD. I'm not really sure if I do this in real speech or if I'm exaggerating it here.

So yeah, let's repeat that: how do you guys pronounce
malachite and
alphabet?

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[ˈmɑɫɐkʌɪʔ]~[mɑɫəkəɪʔ] and
[ˈɑɫfəbɛʔ]~[ˈɑʊfəbɛʔ])


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alphabet: /ˈɛlfəbɪt/ > [ˈɛɤ̯fəːbɨʔ], carefully /ˈɛlfəˌbɜt/ > [ˈɛɤ̯fəːˌbɜʔ]

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