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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:48 pm 
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Umega wrote:
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[hɛːɻ] for both hair and heir


'heir' does not have an /h/ in it


notice it says 'how do YOU pronounce X'


either a) you are failing at transcription yet again or b) you just don't know how to pronounce 'heir'

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:54 pm 
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Umega wrote:
notice it says 'how do YOU pronounce X'
Notice how that doesn't prevent anyone from telling you you're wrong.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:58 pm 
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Astraios wrote:
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notice it says 'how do YOU pronounce X'
Notice how that doesn't prevent anyone from telling you you're wrong.

one at a time

no one cares when i say it wrong and i'm not the only person I know who says it like this, i pronounce the h to distinguish it from air.

especially in the middle of sentence

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:08 pm 
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Like it's ever going to be ambiguous. Humouring you a little bit, in your new situation, how do you distinguish it from "hair"? :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:18 pm 
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context, i might drop the lenghtening on hair

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:25 pm 
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Lies.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:32 pm 
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I am serious
that's exactly how i say it

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:35 pm 
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Mr. Z wrote:
How do you pronounce hair, her and heir?


hair: [hɛɹˤ]
her: [hɝˤ]
heir: [ɛɹˤ]


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:45 pm 
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TaylorS wrote:
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How do you pronounce hair, her and heir?


hair: [hɛɹˤ]
her: [hɝˤ]
heir: [ɛɹˤ]


the phar. ization seems fishy

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:47 pm 
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No, it doesn't. Lern2phonetix.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:50 pm 
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lemme see, okay i'll take your word for it (looking at Taylor's location)

also why are you debating me on why i can't pronounce english correctly says it can be your variation

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:52 pm 
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You've shown several times before that you either can't transcribe or you can't speak English properly. Take your pick.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:02 pm 
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I suck.at.speaking.english

but i usually excell at foreign languages when i take them

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:19 pm 
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"cuneiform" as [kiw.nɛi.I.fo@`m] or [kiw.nɛi.@.fo@`m]


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:56 pm 
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hair: [ˈhɛ̝(ː)ʁˤ]
her: [ˈ(h)ʁ̩ˤ(ː)] (independent), [ʁ̩ˤ(ː)] (clitic)
heir: [ˈɛ̝(ː)ʁˤ]

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:01 pm 
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Umega wrote:
I suck.at.speaking.english

but i usually excell at foreign languages when i take them


Just fuck off already. Do you speak an English variety, and I mean either natively or otherwise fluently? Do you even understand the phonology of English varieties overall well? Do you know how to use IPA proficiently, know what it actually represents at a featural level, and know how to recognize the sounds represented by most IPA symbols you would encounter for representing English varieties from hearing them?

If you said no to any of these questions, you have no right to comment here, seriously.

(And I still have not discounted that you're simply a troll either.)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:09 pm 
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Travis B. wrote:
Umega wrote:
I suck.at.speaking.english

but i usually excell at foreign languages when i take them


Just fuck off already. Do you speak an English variety, and I mean either natively or otherwise fluently? Do you even understand the phonology of English varieties overall well?

If you said no to any of these questions, you have no right to comment here, seriously.

(And I still have not discounted that you're simply a troll either.)


Just go fuck yourself if you insist on cursing

1. yes-native
2.i seriously have a speech impediment , but for most words my dialect is GA english, i understand the phonology in major dialects , also the title says how do YOU PRONOUNCE x not how is x SUPPOSED TO PRONOUNCED IN YOUR DIALECT

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:21 am 
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Umega wrote:
Travis B. wrote:
Umega wrote:
I suck.at.speaking.english

but i usually excell at foreign languages when i take them


Just fuck off already. Do you speak an English variety, and I mean either natively or otherwise fluently? Do you even understand the phonology of English varieties overall well?

If you said no to any of these questions, you have no right to comment here, seriously.

(And I still have not discounted that you're simply a troll either.)


Just go fuck yourself if you insist on cursing

1. yes-native
2.i seriously have a speech impediment , but for most words my dialect is GA english, i understand the phonology in major dialects , also the title says how do YOU PRONOUNCE x not how is x SUPPOSED TO PRONOUNCED IN YOUR DIALECT

The shit you've put into your 'English' transcriptions makes your claim to speak General American highly questionable. And no, you do NOT understand the specific phonologies of major dialects. The fact that you questioned the pharyngealization in TaylorS's rhotic proves that.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:46 am 
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i meant REALLY major and reread my post.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:18 pm 
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Didn't miss anything the first time. And yes I checked.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:42 pm 
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closer [ˈkʰɫoʊ.sɚ]
cuneiform [kʰu.ˈnɛ.i.ˌfɔɹm]

hair [ˈhɛɚ]~[ˈhɛɹ]
her [ˈhɚ]
heir [ˈʔɛɚ]~[ˈʔɛɹ]

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:06 pm 
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closer- [kɫ̥oʊsʷɜ˞ˤ]
cuneiform- [cçʉnɨfɔɹʷˤm]
hair- [heɜ˞ˤ]
*her- [hɜ˞ˤ]
heir- [ʔeɜ˞ˤ]

*The only time I really pronounce an /h/ here is when it begins a sentence or it's by itself, or I'm emphasizing the word. It's pretty much dropped in almost all situations. ex. "I saw her" [ʔaɪ sɒɜ˞ˤ].


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:03 pm 
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Drydic Guy wrote:
Didn't miss anything the first time. And yes I checked.


bullet two, first few words

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:44 pm 
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Umega, Drydic Guy, please don't turn this thread into a flaming war.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:17 pm 
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NO IT IS YOU WHO IS WRONG

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