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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 4:25 pm 
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kanejam wrote:
ˈdʒəʊ̈səf ˈstɐːɫən
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ˈjəʊ̈səf ˈstɐːɫən or ˈʝəʊ̈səf ˈstɐːɫən

Which of these three is closest to the Russian pronunciation?


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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:18 pm 
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yangfiretiger121 wrote:
kanejam wrote:
ˈdʒəʊ̈səf ˈstɐːɫən
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ˈjəʊ̈səf ˈstɐːɫən or ˈʝəʊ̈səf ˈstɐːɫən

Which of these three is closest to the Russian pronunciation?

Why would you think that [ˈʝəʊ̈səf ˈstɐːɫən] would potentially be closer, when Russian does not have [ʝ] (but does have [j])?

Anyways, this is a thread about how you pronounce things, not about asking people how one ought to pronounce things.

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 12:04 pm 
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Some famous names:
Joseph Stalin [dʒoʊsəf / ˈdʒəʊsəf ˈstaːɫɪn] or [ən]
Wilhelm Röntgen [ˈvɪɫɦɛɫm ˈɹœːnʔgn̩] or [ɾentogen] because it's used in Japanese for X-rays
Marie Skłodowska-Curie [ˈmaɹi ˈkʰjʉːɹi]
Niels Bohr [niəɫs boː.ɹ̩]
Erwin Schrödinger [(ɛɹwən) ˈʃɹəʊdɪŋɹ̩] or [ˈʃɹœːdɪŋɹ̩] if i want to show off
Gerard 't Hooft [dʒəˈɹɑːɹd ət hoʊft] who?
Stanisław Ulam [ˈstanɪslav ˈuːlam] who?
Nikita Khrushchev [nɪˈkʰiːtʰə kʰɹʉːʃtʃɛv]
Enrico Fermi [n̩ˈɹiko fɹ̩ːmi]

although most of these, aside from Marie Curie and sometimes Joseph Stalin, i'd use only the last name.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:04 pm 
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how about:

notebook
language
Hillary
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:43 pm 
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[ˈnowt̚bʊk̚]
[ˈlɛjŋgʷɨd͡ʒ]
[ˈhɪləɹi]
[ˈbeᵊɹ]


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:12 am 
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/nʌwtbuk/ [ˈnəu̯ʔt̚ˌb̥ʊʔk̚]
/læjngwɨdʒ/ [ˈlæi̯ŋgwɨdʒ]
/hilərɨ/ [ˈhɪɫɚɹɪj]
/ber/ [beɹ]

/indəwjɚrəpijən/ [ˈɪndəu̯ ˌjɚɹəˈpʰijɘn]
/ælgonkwijən/ [ˌæɫˈgɔŋkʰwijɘn]
/dʒəpɑnɨk/ [dʒəˈpɑnɨk]
/kərijən/ [kʰɚɹˈijɘn]
/kʌwsə/ [ˈkʰəu̯sə]
/tʃerəkij/ [ˈtʃʰeɹəˌkʰij]
/klingɑn/ [ˈkʰɫɪŋˌgɑn]
/inglɨʃ/ [ˈɪŋgɫɨʃ]

/rɨportɨdlɨ/ [ɹɨˈpʰoɹɽɨdɫɨj]
/strong/ [stɹɔŋ]
/heənə/ [heə̯nə]

/wiskɑnsɨn/ [ˌwɪsˈkʰɑnsɨn]

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:07 pm 
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notebook: [ˈnoʔpːʊʔk]
language: [ˈʟ̞ẽːŋɡwɘːtʃ]~[ˈɰẽːŋɡwɘːtʃ]
Hillary: [ˈhɘːɯ̯ʁ̩ːʁi(ː)]
bear: [pɛ(ː)ʁ]

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Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:52 am 
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was
were
where

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:54 am 
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was: +stress [wɔz] -stress [(w)əz]
were: +stress [wɞː] -stress [wə]
where: [we̞ː]

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:57 pm 
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[wəz]
[wɚ]
[weɪɚ̯]

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:10 pm 
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[wəz]
[wɹ̩]
[weəɹ]


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:18 pm 
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was: stressed [wʌːs] or, followed by a vowel, [wʌːz]; unstressed [(w)ɘːs] or, followed by a vowel, [(w)ɘːz]
were: stressed [wʁ̩(ː)]; unstressed [(w)ʁ̩(ː)]
where: [wɛ(ː)ʁ]

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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:38 pm 
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How do you pronounce "picture"? I pronounce it like "pickcher" but I've often heard people say it like "pitcher".


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:00 pm 
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Looks like I say it like you.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:31 pm 
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me too: [ˈpʰɪkt͡ʃʰɚ]

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:53 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:33 am 
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picture ['pʰɪk̚tʃ̯ɐ]

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:43 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:59 pm 
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Vengaboys - We're Going To Ibiza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfwNvfX5Aic

Why do they say "Ibiza" as "eebeetsa" in the song? Isn't "Ibiza" pronounce "eebeetha"?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:53 pm 
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maybe to make people think they're saying "we're going to eat pizza?"

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:11 pm 
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Fooge wrote:
Vengaboys - We're Going To Ibiza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfwNvfX5Aic

Why do they say "Ibiza" as "eebeetsa" in the song? Isn't "Ibiza" pronounce "eebeetha"?


Probably just confusion between the pronunciation of "z" in Spanish and in other Romance languages like Italian. You can find a lot of posts online that mention that some people pronounce "chorizo" as "choritso". One common British pronunciation of "Ibiza" is actually "eye-beetha", with the "price" diphthong in the first syllable.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:33 pm 
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Fooge wrote:
Why do they say "Ibiza" as "eebeetsa" in the song? Isn't "Ibiza" pronounce "eebeetha"?

Because the Venga Boys are a Dutch band, and that's how the Dutch pronounce it, probably under the influence of German. Had they sung [ibiθa], no-one would've understood them.

(EDIT: Another hit of theirs is "vamos a la playa", which they sing with a [v], so in general their pronunciation lacks a bit...)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:15 am 
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Sumelic wrote:
One common British pronunciation of "Ibiza" is actually "eye-beetha", with the "price" diphthong in the first syllable.

Which is particularly interesting given that the local pronunciation of the name is [əjˈvisə].


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:32 pm 
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How do you pronounce "nightingale"? For me it phonemically has /n/ before the /g/ not /N/ because the "t" is pronounced as a glottal stop not a flap.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:55 pm 
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normal: [ˈnaɪtʰɪŋgeɪɫ]
quick speech: [ˈnaɪʔɪ̆ŋgeɪɫ]

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