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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:07 pm 
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Okay then, how do you pronounce "home"? (Both the place where one lives, and as in homing missile)

I [hoʊm] in on my [hɔʟm].

(I'm not entirely sure what vowel is in the second, but it's not the same as the first. I think it's somewhere in between [o] and [ɔ]...)


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you do what now? i will need to see proof of [ʟ]. it's different from [ɫ] without alveolar contact.

also why on earth do you think you pronounce the two differently? :|


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:12 pm 
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home (verb): [ˈho(ː)m]
home (noun): [ˈho(ː)m] or sometimes, particularly when less stressed in informal speech, [ˈo(ː)m]

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:55 pm 
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I hadn't known about that intrusive L thing until a couple days ago when I was listening to this video with this guy from Chicago in it and he was saying both like [bɔʟθ]. I wonder if it's common in that area for that kind of thing to happen.

Anywayy, I pronounce home [hɵːm] usually, but if I'm saying it like "I didn't go to the store, I went home." then it's [hoʊm]


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Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
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How is b̥ different from p?

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/ˈkloʊsəɹ, ˈkjuːnjɪfɔːɹm, ˈhɛəɹ, ˈhɜːɹ, ˈɛəɹ, ˈhoʊm, ˈboʊθ/ [ˈkʰɫ̥ö̞̜ʊsɰ̹̩˞, ˈk͡xʰjʉu̯ȵjɪ̞ˌfo̞ɰ̹˞m, ˈhe̞ɛ̯̈ɰ̹˞, ˈhˠɰ̹̩˞ˑ, ˈɛɛ̯̈ɰ̹˞, ˈhö̞̜ʊm, ˈbö̞̜ʊθ]. Don't Travicize me, this is completely true, this is the closest I can get to the x-canIPA (the limit of transcriptin, I believe, to go any further would mean having a different system for every mouth).

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:39 am 
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My sister does the intrusive-L thing. I know for certain in the word "both", and probably others. I have [ʟ] for /l/ lots, in fact I don't think I ever have [l] for /l/, it's always velarized.

Actually my "[ʟ]" might be more uvular or even pharyngeal. Not sure, it's hard for me to tell so far back there.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:10 pm 
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okay how do yu pronounce this


1. X initially [X-]

2. Citizen

3. Front


1. X at the beginning of a word for me is usually reads /ks/ in my mind but i usually just use /z/ when speaking to other people.
depending on the word it can be /gz/, /ʃ/, /s/, /h/ , /zː/, or /ɛks/

in order of first to last mentioned

Xylophone
Xerox (english x=/z/)
Xerxes
Xiaolin
Xu
Xeer
Xoxe
X-axis


2. /'sɪd.ə'zɪn/

3. /'fɻʌnt/ , /'fɹʷʌnʈ/ uncareful speech or even /.fʌnː/ in really uncareful speech, the occurance me saying them goes in opposite order where i typed them

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:27 pm 
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hair [hɛɚ]
her [hɘ˞ː]~[ɘ˞ː]~[ɚ]~[ə]
heir [ɛɚ]
home [hɞʉm]~[hœʉm]~[hœːm]
both [bɞʉθ]~[bœʉθ]~[bœːθ]
milk [mɪo̯k]

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:30 pm 
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i edited it check again or atleast respond

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:31 pm 
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Great, now everything is clearer! :D


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:37 pm 
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I don't think any of the things you suggested really have any variation at all, Umega.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:39 pm 
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maybe the last one won't

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@Travis B.: Thanks for clearing that up.

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