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Author:  äreo [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:11 pm ]
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How about co-ordinate and laboratory?

I generally have [kʰɞˈwoɚdnəʔ] and [ˈlæbɹət(ə)ɹi]. I remember loving to say [ləˈboːɹətɔɹi] as a kid tho.

Author:  Timmytiptoe [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:14 pm ]
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I'm wondering about the pronunciation of 'year'. I say /jIr/, but I have noticed quite a lot of /j@r/ (or something like that, anyway). Is this a real phenomenon and where does it occur?

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Author:  Travis B. [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:36 pm ]
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coordinate (noun): [ˈkʰ(w)ɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːnɨʔ]~[ˈkʰ(w)ɔ̂ːʁˤnːɨʔ]*, carefully also [kʰoːˈwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːnɨʔ]~[ˈkʰoːˈwɔ̂ːʁˤnːɨʔ]~[kʰəːˈwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːnɨʔ]~[ˈkʰəːˈwɔ̂ːʁˤnːɨʔ]
coordinate (verb): [ˈkʰwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːˌneʔ]~[ˈkʰwɔ̂ːʁˤnˌneʔ], carefully also [kʰoːˈwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːˌneʔ]~[ˈkʰoːˈwɔ̂ːʁˤnˌneʔ]~[kʰəːˈwɔːʁˤ(d)ɨ̃ːˌneʔ]~[ˈkʰəːˈwɔ̂ːʁˤnˌneʔ]**
laboratory: [ˈʟ̞ɛːbɰˤəˌtʰɔːʁˤi(ː)]~[ˈɰɛːbɰˤəˌtʰɔːʁˤi(ː)]
year: [ˈjɪ(ː)ʁˤ]

* The pronunciations with [w] are my native ones, but at some point I picked up [w]-less pronunciations for the noun as well, and now freely vary between the two sets for it; this likely seems to be a more general phonological change that I picked up (but not extended to all words, e.g. the verb here), as I also started inconsistently dropping the [w] in quart and quarter as well.

** Interestingly enough, I seem to also use the careful pronunciations I mention above more frequently with coordinate the verb than with coordinate the noun.

Edit: Made a few fixes to some copy-and-paste mistakes in the IPA above.

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Author:  tezcatlip0ca [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:47 pm ]
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/koʊˈɔːɹdᶦnət, koʊˈɔːɹɾdᶦneɪt, ˈlæbᵊɹətri/ [kʰ̞o̝ˈo̠̞ɰ̹˞ɾ̃nɛ̈̃ˀt̚, kʰ̞o̝ˈo̠̞ɰ̹˞ɾ̃ˌne̞i̞ˀt̚, ˈɫæbɰ̹˞ɜ̹̆t͡ɻ̝̻̹̊ˠɰ̹˞ɪi]. Superscripts in the phonemic transcription only occur in careful speech and are not transcribed in the phonetic.

Author:  Travis B. [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:37 pm ]
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Author:  Umega [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:11 pm ]
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how do you pronounce house, citizen and pathway

Author:  Bristel [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:35 pm ]
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Author:  Ran [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:33 pm ]
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for those of you who rhyme "mirror" and "nearer," how do you pronounce the first vowel of:

irrespective
irresponsible

and

irrational
irrevocable
edit: irradiate
?

Author:  makvas [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:01 pm ]
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Author:  Bob Johnson [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:49 pm ]
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<closer> [ˈkə̥̯ɬ̬̞oo̯̝̟ɹ̝̥.z̞̩˞] and [ˈkə̥̯ɬ̬̞oo̯̝̟ɹ̝.z̞̩˞]. I'm surprised that some people don't differentiate these.

<coordinate> [kʰɵ̯ˈo˞dⁿ.n̩ˌeɪtʼ̚] and [ˈkʰʷo˞dⁿ.n̩.ɪtʼ̚].

<laboratory> [ˈlæːb̚]. I am a beautiful and unique snowflake.

Author:  Travis B. [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:48 pm ]
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mirror: [ˈmɪ(ː)ʁˤ]
near: [ˈnɪ(ː)ʁˤ]
nearer: [ˈnɪːʁˤʁ̩ˤ(ː)]
irrespective: [ɪːʁˤːɨˈs̻pɜʔk̚tɨːf]
irresponsible: [ɪːʁˤːɨˈs̻pãntsɨːbɯ̞(ː)]
irrational: [ɪːʁˤˈʁˤɛʃɨ̃ːnɯ̞(ː)]
irrevocable: [ɪːʁˤˈʁˤɜːvəɡ̊əːbɯ̞(ː)]*
irradiate: [ɪːʁˤˈʁˤeːɾiːˌeʔ]~[ɪːʁˤˈʁˤeːjːˌeʔ]

It is quite interesting, at least for me, that all of these irr- words have /ɪrr/ rather than just /ɪr/ in them for me. When trying to pronounce the words out from my transcriptions without geminates (as I had actually assumed the rr was merely orthographic), the words kept sounding off (especially in the cases of irrational, irrevocable, and irradiate), until I realized that they actually had geminates in them unlike what I had originally surmised.

* This transcription might seem weird, and indeed conflicts with the normal patterning of stressed and unstressed syllables I am used to in my dialect (as I am used to a rather neat alternation of (at least slightly) stressed and unstressed syllables (except for initial syllables always getting at least a bit of stress) as long as secondary stress or syllable loss do not come into play), but I am pretty sure there is [ɡ̊] rather than [k] in it, as when I tried replacing the /k/ with /g/, the resulting word sounded essentially identical except the vowel after /v/ got longer.

(I should also note that voiced plosives marked in my transcriptions are actually in free variation with regard to voicing in actual realization, even intervocalically, but I mark them as if they were voiced as they do not infrequently remain voiced, moreso in more careful speech and moreso if intervocalic, whereas the voiceless lenis plosives I mark will normally stay voiceless.)

Author:  Travis B. [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:11 pm ]
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Author:  Travis B. [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:52 pm ]
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Okay, here's some more that interest me personally:

factory
factorial
century
centurion
victory
victorious
restaurant
restauranteur
history
historical
mystery
mysterious
interest
interesting
interestingly

(I will give my own transcriptions later, but I want to see what some of you guys have here, unhinted as to what features I am interested in.)

Author:  Astraios [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:17 pm ]
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I thought I saw what you were getting at, so I might have observersparadoxed myself, but here:

factory ['fak̚ʧɹʷi]~['fak̚təɹʷi]
factorial [fa't:ɔɹʷɪʊ]
century ['sɛ̃ʧ(ʲə)ɹʷi]
centurion [sɛ̃'ʧɔɹʷɪə̃]~[sɛ̃'ʧʲʉɹʷɪə̃]
victory ['ʋɪk̚ʧɹʷi]~['ʋɪk̚təɹʷi]
victorious [ʋɪk̚'tɔɹʷɪəs]
restaurant ['ɹʷɛsʧɹʷɑ̃ʔ]
restauranteur [ɹʷɛsʧɹʷɑ̃'tœ]
history ['ɦɪsʧɹʷi]
historical [(ɪ)s.'tɑɹʷɪkʊ]
mystery ['mɪsʧɹʷi]~['mɪstəɹʷi]
mysterious [ms'tɪɹʷɪəs]
interest ['ɪ̃ʧɹʷɛsʔ]
interesting ['ɪ̃ʧɹʷstɪ̃]
interestingly ['ɪ̃ʧɹʷstɪ̃li]

Author:  Umega [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:21 pm ]
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house and carver

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