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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:31 am 
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#undef FEMALE

I'd love for you to try my game out! Here's the forum thread about it:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:47 am 
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Today is pie day. I'm going to knock off early and make a pumpkin pie with a cookie crust. When my partner comes home, he'll take the pie dough from the refrigerator, where it's been resting overnight, roll it out, and fill it with mincemeat. He'll take the trimmings from fitting it to a pie pan, put them on a cookie sheet, sprinkle them with cinnamon and sugar, and bake them up separately.

Does anyone have a name for this treat? It seems like there should be one, but I've never heard it and I've been eating them since childhood.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:51 am 
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Location: tʰæ.ɹʷˠə.ˈgɜʉ̯.nɜ kʰæ.tə.ˈlɜʉ̯.nʲɜ spɛ̝ɪ̯n ˈjʏː.ɹəʔp
Mincemeat? Sounds a bit like Mince pie to me. Or a variant.

I suppose you don't mean minced meat.

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So Wiktionary apparently thinks that . Really? I've been hearing it all my life hear in the American Midwest. What other words do people use?


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:15 pm 
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This is the first time I have heard the term shit disturber in that sense. I can easily picture someone saying to disturb shit, but that has a markedly different meaning to me, meaning to literally disturb items (e.g. to be needlessly touching items or moving items around). In the sense indicated by Wiktionary I am much more familiar with the term to stir shit (up), even though the term shit stirrer (which is less familiar to me than the aforementioned verb phrase) is supposedly British according to Wiktionary.

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:39 pm 
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/facepalm

Just because someone has been in part of a state does not mean that they have had contact with that state in general at all. For instance, I speak a lot about Wisconsin, but I am really speaking about Milwaukee and, more specifically, Wauwatosa (and even though I lived in Madison I was there just as a student, and many of the people there were actually originally from the Milwaukee area).

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:49 pm 
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/facepalm

Because language change is not nearly as regular of a process as some would like to believe it as. Past isoglosses can easily be broken up by future changes, resulting in past innovations getting spread out in discontiguous areas.

And do not forget that we only live in small corners of the Midwest (I for one cannot speak for much of Wisconsin outside of Milwaukee, and you cannot speak for much of Michigan outside Saginaw), which still leaves large portions of the Midwest for this feature to be found in without them even having to be discontiguous!

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:23 pm 
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"Shit disturber" is part of my active vocabulary; I hesitate to speak for the region, though. I have the feeling that it's a mom phrase, so I may have picked it up from her and might be atypical for using it.

However, my sense of what it means differs slightly from what Wiktionary offers. Rather than only the negative "troublemaker" sense of definition 1, I also use it more positively, e.g. for people who stir up trouble for a good reason. Activists, whistleblowers, those who refuse to behave like sheeple, those who call it as they see it even if it's going to bother someone. I can recall having once called Brel a shit disturber. I had intended it as a compliment. Now that I see others might take it as mainly negative, I hope (seven years down the road) that she didn't take it too far amiss. :(

That said, trolls and senseless troublemakers count as "shit disturbers" to me too.


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Having grown up in Canada, I can say I have definitely heard shit-disturber, but only in the negative sense listed on Wiktionary.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:40 pm 
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Do you guys mean that shit starter isn't the normal term for this?

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:38 am 
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I've never heard shit starter.


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Shit stirrer! I knew there was a similar phrase. Shit stirrer... my dad used that a lot.

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