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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:18 am 
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In video games, usually MMORPGs, 'adds' are mobs spawned in the middle of a boss fight.


"Mob" itself may fit the topic, in the sense of (to quote Wiktionary) "A non-player character [in a video game] that exists to be fought or killed to further the progression of the story or game."

Speaking of "mob", is it a shortening/corruption of "monster"? Or maybe it's from the usual word "mob", but got corrupted to mean "a member of a mob", instead of the mob itself?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:59 am 
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Terra wrote:
Speaking of "mob", is it a shortening/corruption of "monster"? Or maybe it's from the usual word "mob", but got corrupted to mean "a member of a mob", instead of the mob itself?

In my understanding, it's shortened from 'mobile entity'.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:02 am 
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KathAveara wrote:
Terra wrote:
Speaking of "mob", is it a shortening/corruption of "monster"? Or maybe it's from the usual word "mob", but got corrupted to mean "a member of a mob", instead of the mob itself?

In my understanding, it's shortened from 'mobile entity'.

Interesting. Never heard of that theory or term.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:23 am 
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Squib (link); a brief satirical piece of writing or speech. I never heard of this word, but came across it while browsing for classes to follow; one of the examination requirements was to write a 'squib style article'. Never heard of the word before.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:16 am 
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Don't you mean: non-magical person born to wizarding parents.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:24 am 
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'squib' reminds me of another:
dud : a bomb/shell that fails to explode;; extended to mean anything that doesn't perform the way that it should/is-expected-to


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:28 am 
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Terra wrote:
KathAveara wrote:
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Speaking of "mob", is it a shortening/corruption of "monster"? Or maybe it's from the usual word "mob", but got corrupted to mean "a member of a mob", instead of the mob itself?

In my understanding, it's shortened from 'mobile entity'.

Interesting. Never heard of that theory or term.

Wiktionary claims that it is an abbreviation of mobile (vulgus), meaning "fickle crowd".

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:30 am 
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Dewrad wrote:
Terra wrote:
KathAveara wrote:
Terra wrote:
Speaking of "mob", is it a shortening/corruption of "monster"? Or maybe it's from the usual word "mob", but got corrupted to mean "a member of a mob", instead of the mob itself?

In my understanding, it's shortened from 'mobile entity'.

Interesting. Never heard of that theory or term.

Wiktionary claims that it is an abbreviation of mobile (vulgus), meaning "fickle crowd".


Wiktionary is talking about the common English term for a bunch of angry people, not the computer game term for an AI-controlled monster. It may or may not be correct about the former; KathAveara is correct about the latter.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:38 am 
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Squib (link); a brief satirical piece of writing or speech. I never heard of this word, but came across it while browsing for classes to follow; one of the examination requirements was to write a 'squib style article'. Never heard of the word before.


"Squib" also refers to a small firecracker or explosive; I'm most familiar with it's use in film and theater, where the term refers to an explosive, often attached to a bag of artificial blood, which is used to simulate the impact of a bullet.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:49 am 
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Yesterday I typed "swarf" when I meant to type "dwarf" and discovered it's an actual English word with the technical meaning "the waste chips or shavings from metalworking or a saw cutting wood" or "the grit worn away by use of a grindstone or whetstone, being particles of the material being cut and of the cutting stone itself".


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:16 am 
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^ Cognate to dutch zwerf / zwerven ' to roam' / zwerver 'homeless person' ?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:48 am 
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sirdanilot wrote:
^ Cognate to dutch zwerf / zwerven ' to roam' / zwerver 'homeless person' ?

No, those Dutch words are instead cognate to English swerve 'turn aside, deviate from a straight course'. Which is of course an interesting one-syllable word in itself...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:50 am 
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Cedh wrote:
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^ Cognate to dutch zwerf / zwerven ' to roam' / zwerver 'homeless person' ?

No, those Dutch words are instead cognate to English swerve 'turn aside, deviate from a straight course'. Which is of course an interesting one-syllable word in itself...

And swarf isn't cognate to swerve at all? Seems strange to me, since they look alike a lot and have quite similar meanings (something with 'roam or stray from a certain point' ).


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:57 pm 
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sirdanilot wrote:
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^ Cognate to dutch zwerf / zwerven ' to roam' / zwerver 'homeless person' ?

No, those Dutch words are instead cognate to English swerve 'turn aside, deviate from a straight course'. Which is of course an interesting one-syllable word in itself...

And swarf isn't cognate to swerve at all? Seems strange to me, since they look alike a lot and have quite similar meanings (something with 'roam or stray from a certain point' ).

According to Etymonline they're from the same PIE root, so you're right that they're related, but the connection doesn't seem to be especially close.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:06 pm 
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Cedh wrote:
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And swarf isn't cognate to swerve at all? Seems strange to me, since they look alike a lot and have quite similar meanings (something with 'roam or stray from a certain point' ).

According to Etymonline they're from the same PIE root, so you're right that they're related, but the connection doesn't seem to be especially close.

Really? Isn't OE geswearf just a prefixed o-grade derivation from the verbal stem? (Cf. StG sessen/Gesäß, wenden/Gewand, etc.)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:25 pm 
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Yes, you're right. I seem to have overlooked the OE meaning in the article on "swerve", sorry.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:26 pm 
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On a mostly unrelated note, I think geswearf is my new favorite word (of the day, anyway). Man I love Old English.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:13 am 
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Tell me about it. It has the craziest words. I like steorra.

PG is also fun: *dumbaz, *hwazuh


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:58 am 
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All those final z's do make it look kind of "X-TREME!" I'm tempted to start calling friends "my manniz." :P


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:16 am 
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ey manniz, hwazuuuuh?
nothingen muchiz


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:25 am 
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justaz he2r chillijandz!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:46 am 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glebe
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/furze (synonyms: gorse, whin)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeve_%28England%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_leet

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:27 am 
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Gorse and furze, really? Why not rat and vole and shrew and mouse as well.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:04 am 
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cos less rare I guess


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:49 am 
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cos less rare I guess

Gorse vs vole? The former's certainly more common around here.

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