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In the Yorkshire accent, the /e/ of rate is [e], and /o/ is [o], right? Because that's how they sound when I say them (except before other vowels with which they do not form diphthongs), and it's the only remnant of Yorkshire in my accent, I think.

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Imitating them, I would hesitantly say yes.
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That's how the downstairs people talk on Downton Abbey, anyway.
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PVER•PVERUM•AMAT wrote:In the Yorkshire accent, the /e/ of rate is [e], and /o/ is [o], right? Because that's how they sound when I say them (except before other vowels with which they do not form diphthongs), and it's the only remnant of Yorkshire in my accent, I think.
If we're splitting hairs, the Yorkshire vowels are a bit lower than the cardinal vowels, but those are reference points rather than something we'd expect to encounter irl. The Yorkshire vowels are also a bit lengthened. Of course, it also depends where you're from: many people especially on the East side have a fronted vowel for /o/, like [ø] or schwa.

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Yeah, me and my younger brother have [e:] and [o:] for RP /ɛɪ/ and /əʊ/ (not to the same level of consistency, his accent is stronger than mine) :)

As Finlay said, though, I think they're a bit lower than /e:/ and /o:/, but not as low as /ɛ:/ and /ɔ:/ (they're probably just slightly higher than Finnish <ee> and <oo>, if I'm hearing them right). "Low" and "lore" for example, are [lo:] and [lɔ:] (we don't have the final schwa some speakers do for "lore"). That's how I hear it anyway.
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sangi39 wrote:Yeah, me and my younger brother have [e:] and [o:] for RP /ɛɪ/ and /əʊ/ (not to the same level of consistency, his accent is stronger than mine) :)

As Finlay said, though, I think they're a bit lower than /e:/ and /o:/, but not as low as /ɛ:/ and /ɔ:/ (they're probably just slightly higher than Finnish <ee> and <oo>, if I'm hearing them right). "Low" and "lore" for example, are [lo:] and [lɔ:] (we don't have the final schwa some speakers do for "lore"). That's how I hear it anyway.
What do(es) you/Yorkshire have/has for law, out of curiosity?
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Where is pthagnar, he is from Yorkshire. Also he has some fucked up front rounded vowel thing in "bear".
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Pthag is from Lancashire.
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Fuck. Once again my shoddy memory fails me.

In my defence: all of those -shires!
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So why don't you confuse all those countries in -ia?

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Please. There is a difference between not knowing about Yorkshire and not knowing about Czechoslovenia.
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Nah, he's clearly talking about Belgia.
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Nessari wrote:
sangi39 wrote:Yeah, me and my younger brother have [e:] and [o:] for RP /ɛɪ/ and /əʊ/ (not to the same level of consistency, his accent is stronger than mine) :)

As Finlay said, though, I think they're a bit lower than /e:/ and /o:/, but not as low as /ɛ:/ and /ɔ:/ (they're probably just slightly higher than Finnish <ee> and <oo>, if I'm hearing them right). "Low" and "lore" for example, are [lo:] and [lɔ:] (we don't have the final schwa some speakers do for "lore"). That's how I hear it anyway.
What do(es) you/Yorkshire have/has for law, out of curiosity?
Best question I've ever read :D But we have [lɔ:] for "law" as well :)
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Nessari wrote:Nah, he's clearly talking about Belgia.
All of them?

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KathAveara wrote:
Nessari wrote:Nah, he's clearly talking about Belgia.
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i am cross

lancashire english has the same single vowels, though I don't know about quibbling over phones because i have no idea how to read spectrograms.

formerly rhotic words are fucked, though, and vary from town to town in some ways (nb. please do not ask me the ways). i find myself becoming more rhotic these days.

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sangi39 wrote:
Nessari wrote:
sangi39 wrote:Yeah, me and my younger brother have [e:] and [o:] for RP /ɛɪ/ and /əʊ/ (not to the same level of consistency, his accent is stronger than mine) :)

As Finlay said, though, I think they're a bit lower than /e:/ and /o:/, but not as low as /ɛ:/ and /ɔ:/ (they're probably just slightly higher than Finnish <ee> and <oo>, if I'm hearing them right). "Low" and "lore" for example, are [lo:] and [lɔ:] (we don't have the final schwa some speakers do for "lore"). That's how I hear it anyway.
What do(es) you/Yorkshire have/has for law, out of curiosity?
Best question I've ever read :D But we have [lɔ:] for "law" as well :)
I differentiate them; my accent is rhotic.

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