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Yorkshire accent
In the Yorkshire accent, the /e/ of rate is [e], and /o/ is [o], right? Because that's how they sound when I say them (except before other vowels with which they do not form diphthongs), and it's the only remnant of Yorkshire in my accent, I think.
Re: Yorkshire accent
If we're splitting hairs, the Yorkshire vowels are a bit lower than the cardinal vowels, but those are reference points rather than something we'd expect to encounter irl. The Yorkshire vowels are also a bit lengthened. Of course, it also depends where you're from: many people especially on the East side have a fronted vowel for /o/, like [ø] or schwa.PVER•PVERUM•AMAT wrote:In the Yorkshire accent, the /e/ of rate is [e], and /o/ is [o], right? Because that's how they sound when I say them (except before other vowels with which they do not form diphthongs), and it's the only remnant of Yorkshire in my accent, I think.
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Yeah, me and my younger brother have [e:] and [o:] for RP /ɛɪ/ and /əʊ/ (not to the same level of consistency, his accent is stronger than mine)
As Finlay said, though, I think they're a bit lower than /e:/ and /o:/, but not as low as /ɛ:/ and /ɔ:/ (they're probably just slightly higher than Finnish <ee> and <oo>, if I'm hearing them right). "Low" and "lore" for example, are [lo:] and [lɔ:] (we don't have the final schwa some speakers do for "lore"). That's how I hear it anyway.
As Finlay said, though, I think they're a bit lower than /e:/ and /o:/, but not as low as /ɛ:/ and /ɔ:/ (they're probably just slightly higher than Finnish <ee> and <oo>, if I'm hearing them right). "Low" and "lore" for example, are [lo:] and [lɔ:] (we don't have the final schwa some speakers do for "lore"). That's how I hear it anyway.
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So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
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Re: Yorkshire accent
What do(es) you/Yorkshire have/has for law, out of curiosity?sangi39 wrote:Yeah, me and my younger brother have [e:] and [o:] for RP /ɛɪ/ and /əʊ/ (not to the same level of consistency, his accent is stronger than mine)
As Finlay said, though, I think they're a bit lower than /e:/ and /o:/, but not as low as /ɛ:/ and /ɔ:/ (they're probably just slightly higher than Finnish <ee> and <oo>, if I'm hearing them right). "Low" and "lore" for example, are [lo:] and [lɔ:] (we don't have the final schwa some speakers do for "lore"). That's how I hear it anyway.
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Re: Yorkshire accent
Where is pthagnar, he is from Yorkshire. Also he has some fucked up front rounded vowel thing in "bear".
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Pthag is from Lancashire.
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Fuck. Once again my shoddy memory fails me.
In my defence: all of those -shires!
In my defence: all of those -shires!
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So why don't you confuse all those countries in -ia?
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Please. There is a difference between not knowing about Yorkshire and not knowing about Czechoslovenia.
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Re: Yorkshire accent
Nah, he's clearly talking about Belgia.
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Best question I've ever read But we have [lɔ:] for "law" as wellNessari wrote:What do(es) you/Yorkshire have/has for law, out of curiosity?sangi39 wrote:Yeah, me and my younger brother have [e:] and [o:] for RP /ɛɪ/ and /əʊ/ (not to the same level of consistency, his accent is stronger than mine)
As Finlay said, though, I think they're a bit lower than /e:/ and /o:/, but not as low as /ɛ:/ and /ɔ:/ (they're probably just slightly higher than Finnish <ee> and <oo>, if I'm hearing them right). "Low" and "lore" for example, are [lo:] and [lɔ:] (we don't have the final schwa some speakers do for "lore"). That's how I hear it anyway.
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
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Re: Yorkshire accent
All of them?Nessari wrote:Nah, he's clearly talking about Belgia.
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Yes.KathAveara wrote:All of them?Nessari wrote:Nah, he's clearly talking about Belgia.
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i am cross
lancashire english has the same single vowels, though I don't know about quibbling over phones because i have no idea how to read spectrograms.
formerly rhotic words are fucked, though, and vary from town to town in some ways (nb. please do not ask me the ways). i find myself becoming more rhotic these days.
lancashire english has the same single vowels, though I don't know about quibbling over phones because i have no idea how to read spectrograms.
formerly rhotic words are fucked, though, and vary from town to town in some ways (nb. please do not ask me the ways). i find myself becoming more rhotic these days.
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Re: Yorkshire accent
I differentiate them; my accent is rhotic.sangi39 wrote:Best question I've ever read But we have [lɔ:] for "law" as wellNessari wrote:What do(es) you/Yorkshire have/has for law, out of curiosity?sangi39 wrote:Yeah, me and my younger brother have [e:] and [o:] for RP /ɛɪ/ and /əʊ/ (not to the same level of consistency, his accent is stronger than mine)
As Finlay said, though, I think they're a bit lower than /e:/ and /o:/, but not as low as /ɛ:/ and /ɔ:/ (they're probably just slightly higher than Finnish <ee> and <oo>, if I'm hearing them right). "Low" and "lore" for example, are [lo:] and [lɔ:] (we don't have the final schwa some speakers do for "lore"). That's how I hear it anyway.