English /tr dr/ affrication

[Drydic]

...anyone can "choose" to not affricate them. And what variety of rhotic you have probably doesn't have a whole lot of bearing on the matter.

[DTheZombie]

If I'm thinking right my dialect is North Midlands American English. It's funny I never noticed affrication there until I read this thread and payed attention. My <tr> is lightly affricated if anything probably closer to/tʃ͡r/ so my <trip> is something like /tʃ͡rɪp/. As someone said previously the <r> may just be lightly fricated at the beginning but I definitely hear both a fricative-like phone and an approximate-like phone and it sounds quite different from my /tʃ͡/ in <chip> (/tʃ͡ɪp/). My <dr> however is a plain stop-approximate sequence /dr/ ( <drip> = /drɪp/) and sounds nothing like my /dʒ͡/ in <gyp> /dʒ͡ɪp/ (had to look up how to spell that lol).

[2+3 clusivity]

Yet another English pronunciation thread? I'll bite.

So far as I can judge, I have the affrication even after s. I can only get rid of it by replacing my retroflex r with something else (a flap or a trill).

Hungh. I've noticed this affrication before with /tɻ/ and /dɻ/, but I have never noticed it with /stɻ/ sequences. I wonder if my distribution parallels the more general restriction on aspiration following /s/ + stop clusters.

If I'm thinking right my dialect is North Midlands American English. It's funny I never noticed affrication there until I read this thread and payed attention. My <tr> is lightly affricated if anything probably closer to/tʃ͡r/ so my <trip> is something like /tʃ͡rɪp/. As someone said previously the <r> may just be lightly fricated at the beginning but I definitely hear both a fricative-like phone and an approximate-like phone and it sounds quite different from my /tʃ͡/ in <chip> (/tʃ͡ɪp/). My <dr> however is a plain stop-approximate sequence /dr/ ( <drip> = /drɪp/) and sounds nothing like my /dʒ͡/ in <gyp> /dʒ͡ɪp/ (had to look up how to spell that lol).

Midatlantic American with some "redneck" tendencies slowly evaporating into a TV accent background. I have something similar with /tɻ/ (<train> which is almost [ʈ͡ʂɻ]) sounding very different from /tʃ͡/ (<chain>)--and also with /dʒ͡/ (as in <juice>) v. /dɻ/ (as in <druid> or almost [ɖ͡ʐɻ]). There seems to be a very different angle of the tongue and tongue tip in each pair.

[DTheZombie]

I've actually heard my dialect is one of, if not the "closest" to SAE at least in pronunciation and a lot of people come to Indy for "accent reduction therapy" or whatever they call it so yeah a TV accent background is about right and I won't deny the "redneck tendencies" as a lot of my family speak some of the more "southern" sounding dialects of the state.