If natlangs were conlangs...
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
I knew it was <i> because of this thread.
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
To be fair, /æ/ is [æ~ɛ], and the paper itself writes it as /ɛ/ IIRC. The vowel system is essentially T7L, but with an additional fricated vowel, and nasalization on the low vowel for whatever reason.ObsequiousNewt wrote:Hmm, still not kitchen-sinky enough. Let's give it three varieties of /i/, one of which is actually fricated, but not include any /e/.
Are there any natlangs with >8 tones? Though there are three tone clusters that can occur on roots, and I don't know why they aren't counted as separate tones in Iau... Dananshan Hmong also has eight, but I can't think of any with nine or more.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
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Berber would certainly draw some fire.
"This is just a phoneme inventory, you forgot to put syllable constraints."
"Oh...um...a syllable is any two or three sounds nearby each other. Look, I made this nifty sonority hierarchy to decide on nuclei. 'k' sounds like a good vowel if it's next to 't', right?"
"This is just a phoneme inventory, you forgot to put syllable constraints."
"Oh...um...a syllable is any two or three sounds nearby each other. Look, I made this nifty sonority hierarchy to decide on nuclei. 'k' sounds like a good vowel if it's next to 't', right?"
Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
Besides the fact that the script totally looks like something someone on the internet made.
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
To be fair, schwas are obligatory in a whole lot of contexts. They're just not written in the script.Takarda wrote:Berber would certainly draw some fire.
"This is just a phoneme inventory, you forgot to put syllable constraints."
"Oh...um...a syllable is any two or three sounds nearby each other. Look, I made this nifty sonority hierarchy to decide on nuclei. 'k' sounds like a good vowel if it's next to 't', right?"
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
All of that is balanced out by the fact that it's the only language family in the world to out-Semitic Semitic.
Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
Kashaya looks like somebody trying too hard to come up with weird grammatical categories and markers.
Verbs can take upwards of 17 affixes and other grammatical markers simultaneously, including:
Verbs can take upwards of 17 affixes and other grammatical markers simultaneously, including:
- One of 20 "instrumental" prefixes describing the object or motion with which an action is performed
- A plural agent marker that consists of shifting all instances of glottalized /n'/ to ejective /ts'/
- A marker indicating that the action specifically takes place on or off the ground
- One of three distinct markers indicating that an action is beginning
- A "plural act" marker with 13 different allomorphs that may or may not trigger loss of aspiration and/or debuccalization elsewhere in the verb
- One (or, in some cases, more) of 15 different directional suffixes
- Several suffixes that may be reduplicated for emphasis
- A "distributive" suffix indicating that "the action takes place in different places or moves in a haphazard manner"
- A "defunctive" suffix indicating an action performed by someone who is now dead
- One of 7 evidentials, 5 irrealis moods, 4 kinds of imperative, or 6 kinds of "future" maker
- A "responsive" suffix indicating that one is answering a question or specifically responding to a statement
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Tangut. Just... holy... wow, no. (As noted by Nort and others.)
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
And you didn't even mention the 95 vowels.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
To be fair, it appears that Tangut essentially is a conscript. I do not envy those printers.
Also, iõʳ. Retroflex nasal diphthong. That's awesome.
Also, iõʳ. Retroflex nasal diphthong. That's awesome.
Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
In conclusion, if natlangs were conlangs, they would be the most incredible conlangs ever. They would have a caliber of realism that no one here could come close to matching. Some of them would be mind-boggling complex, and make most of the langs presented here look like the work of toddlers.
That is what would happen if natlangs were conlangs.
That is what would happen if natlangs were conlangs.
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
Just what do you think you are doing?cromulant wrote:In conclusion
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Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.
Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.
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I am...concluding. I think.
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You were, but your saying it rendered it invalid. Heh.
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One does not simply... conclude a thread.
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Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.
Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.
Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
Unless you say sth so bad it's locked.
It has happened.
Recently.
And it will soon.
Mwahahaha.
It has happened.
Recently.
And it will soon.
Mwahahaha.
Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
Do you deny that at the time of posting, it was the last post in the thread?ObsequiousNewt wrote:One does not simply... conclude a thread.
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What if we used a catapult?ObsequiousNewt wrote:One does not simply... conclude a thread.
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That would be a catastrophe.Nessari wrote:What if we used a catapult?ObsequiousNewt wrote:One does not simply... conclude a thread.
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Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.
Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
Oh?ObsequiousNewt wrote:That would be a catastrophe.Nessari wrote:What if we used a catapult?ObsequiousNewt wrote:One does not simply... conclude a thread.
Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
This thread was never good.
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
The creator of Armenian wrote: Here are the sound changes from PIE to my conlang, Armenian:
- *dw > erk
Another conlanger wrote:That is not how sound changes work.
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Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.
Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
What's your point? Gaelic was still spoken in most highland areas in Scotland up until the 18th century, 300 years after it had cleared out of the lowlands. Then the remaining ones all went to Glasgow, Edinburgh, and Canada, leaving only the most remote highland, herding populations in the NorthWest.Dewrad wrote:Interesting, I'll mention that to some Gaelic speakers... oh wait.R.Rusanov wrote:An interesting point I will make here is that highland, herding populations resist language assimilation very well.
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Oh wow Anguipes, you've outdone yourself again. Where do you get the energy from to do that many characters? And that syllable structure is interesting, but I don't really understand it.Mandarin
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Re: If natlangs were conlangs...
I have that in Jedlug*... at least under an analysis that, while plausible, I don't use.CatDoom wrote:To be fair, it appears that Tangut essentially is a conscript. I do not envy those printers.
Also, iõʳ. Retroflex nasal diphthong. That's awesome.
* [cɛ̰ɾɯ̃], register letters B)
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.