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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:31 am 
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Do you know any natlangs that look like conlangs or have unusual representations of phonemes in their orthography?
I know that Saanich and Taa are like this, they are written with an unusual orthography (Saanich all uppercase, Taa uses IPA with additional letters).

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:15 am 
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What do conlangs look like?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:41 am 
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Since when are conlangs frequently written all-uppercase, and since when are natlangs markedly less likely to be written using IPA or Americanist characters than conlangs? (Note, e.g. African languages, where ⟨ɛ ɔ⟩ are very frequently used orthographically, a range of languages in which ⟨ə⟩ or its Cyrillic counterpart ⟨ә⟩ is used orthographically (for things ranging from /ɨ/ to /æ/), and the languages which use ⟨ʼ⟩ to mark ejectives.)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:05 pm 
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there is a natlang called Ulithian

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:02 pm 
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that <gq> is a good way to represent /ɢ/.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:53 am 
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Wait, Taa has voiced ejectives? I thought those were impossible.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:08 pm 
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Ulithian uses a, e, and o with a single dot over them in the alphabet, for who knows what, and I have seen a Taa example using a small capital g.

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There is a thread around here called "If natlangs were conlangs": viewtopic.php?f=7&t=42608
Similar enough innit?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:17 am 
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there's a language somewhere in africa that uses @ as a letter with a capital form. there are other languages in africa that have shit like y with hook, the florin sign, ʋ, etc. as letters.

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Quite a few Native American languages use <7> to represent /ʔ/; Tlingit uses <.>--and since it also has /ʔʷ/, this also gives us <.w>.

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I suppose nobody's mentioned Arapaho yet.

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