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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:11 am 
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Firstly, I apologise if this is in the wrong section!

So someone posted this on Facebook a few days ago and I must say that it had never occurred to me. They posted that the questions "When", "Where" and "When" can be answered by substituting the w for a t. Where > There. I suppose I was mostly surprised by the fact that I'd never noticed this. I guess this has been discussed here before, but is this purely coincidental or did it occur deliberately?

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This is purely a coincidence. Using "what" and "that" as examples, in Old English, these two words were spelt "hwæt" and "þæt". In the course of time, "hw" was respelled "wh" and "þ" was respelled "th", yielding "what" and "that". Ditto for the other pairs.


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That only changed the question from w/t correspondence to hw/þ correspondence though, and to my surprise all three of them fits even in Old English even down to vowel lengths.


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Ok, going back all the way to PIE, *kʷó-d vs. *tó-d ("what" vs. "that"), *kʷó-m vs. *tó-m ("when" vs. "then"), and *kʷó-r vs. *tó-r ("where" vs. "there"). In this case, *kʷo- and *to- are adjectival pronoun stems derived from the more basic pronoun roots *kʷ- and *t-.


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 Post subject: Re: What, where, when
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Well if that isn't the most interesting revelation.

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I think I'm getting out of my depth now!

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I sometimes feel like we should use "hat" instead of "this" and "hen" instead of "now", to parallel the "here"/"there" (and hither/thither and hence/thence and here-/there- compounds) distinction.


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that hardly negates the point that Some Words Are Homographs/Homophones

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Why can't people just use they... and no, I am not going to remember what your favorite personal pronoun is, thank you. (Luckily no one has ever insisted to me that I call them a particular pronoun.)

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