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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:06 pm 
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When I was really young I used to say things like [ˌlɪ.mə.ˈwi:z]for "limousine", which I don't remember, and [əʊ.ˈʃi:.ni.ˌjə] for "Oceania" and [ˈflɪŋ.(g)ə.ˌmɪŋ.(g)əʊ] for "flamingo", which I do remember. My mum tells me that I was never good at the phonetics and would just remember the "shape" of a word from reading it.

EDIT: I've added the stress marking to give a bit more of the phonetic detail, though for "flingamingo" I don't think there was any real difference between the primary and secondary stress.

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One of my coworkers just pronounced the name Javier with [ʤ]. I mocked him and he pleaded lack of sleep.

I used to have the common American variant "Exzavier" for Xavier when I was younger. My excuse is that I was taught by Marianists, not Jesuits.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:04 pm 
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各国:I learned that as かくくに /kakukuni/. Then, I had to use that for an ad in Japan we were filming. Oh gods. It is supposed to be かっこく/kakkoku/. It took a while, but I got it right in the end.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:02 pm 
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My brother wanted to give his son the middle name "Xik" (pronounced /ˈziːk/).

It's probably best for everyone involved that he never reproduced.


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When I was younger, I kept thinking it was *indicent instead of incident. I used to read a certain popular Indian children's magazine in English; it had one section where people told true stories, and beneath each one, it said something like "based on a real-life incident narrated by:" But I don't remember coming across that word in any other context at the time.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:42 am 
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Holy fuck. Spell how we want or the eggs get it?


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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 1:13 am 
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I think it would be better to create English orthography. If it were, all English-speaking countries could develop way of writing down and pronouncing foreign names? Why don't you (American, Canadian, British and Australian) create language councils and reform spelling?

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:14 pm 
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The thing is that having different orthographies for different countries would not work either, because it works so much better for English-speakers to be able to read what is written by any English-speaker and likewise to be able to write so as to be read by any English-speaker. (While there are orthographic differences in English between different countries, they really are trivial, being mere graphical details, and do not actually indicate different underlying phonemes.) If anything, we want to keep written English as one unitary entity, trivial differences aside, with the understanding that English varieties will drift apart over time and we want English-speakers to be able to read and write a single written language regardless of whatever differences there may be in how they speak.

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:34 pm 
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Anyways, many millions of people are already literate in the current written English, are we going to make them all learn something different just because some language planner thinks it's a good idea? And doing so would harm English's status as a lingua franca far more than it would help it.

(If anything, a better goal for long-term language planning would be to position the current written English as akin to what classical Latin, classical Chinese, or classical Arabic were, with the understanding that spoken English would be more akin to Romance or spoken Chinese or Arabic "dialects".)

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:45 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:55 pm 
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There are other ways to communicate in a multilingual society besides using a lingua franca. Js.


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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 1:02 pm 
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Norway, for example, has better acceptance of dialects with them being considered separate languages.


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