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I was watching some show and there were two Texan women, one of them said "yeller" and the other (her sister) corrected her several times saying emphatically "yellow", I've heard some Southerners also say "lellow" for "yellow", just how common are these deviations?!


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It is quite normal in NAE at least to have disyllabic realizations of historical /aɪ̯(ə)l aʊ̯(ə)l ɔɪ̯(ə)l/; I actually am surprised that you do not have this, Sal.

(Conversely, it is normal here to have monosyllabic realizations of historical /iː(ə)l uː(ə)l eɪ̯(ə)l oʊ̯(ə)l/, and historical monosyllabic and disyllabic forms of these have invariably merged here.)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:15 am 
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My idiolect has sporadic smoothing before sonorants (a relic of my early years in ), so if I try to force myself to make these words truly monosyllabic, I'm liable to loose the offglide altogether (e.g. oil becomes a homophone for awl).


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I very frequently have smoothing of /aɪ̯l/ to [aɤ̯] rather than the expected [ae̯ɯ] (e.g. I'll [aɤ̯], mile [maɤ̯]). Somewhat less frequently I also have smoothing of /aʊ̯l/ to [ɑɤ̯] rather than the expected [ɑwʊ] (towel [tʰɑɤ̯]).

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My french L1 make my whole pronunciation of my basic english something hazardous...


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When I first heard of British Conservative politician Michael Gove, I had two guesses about how his surname is pronounced, and as it turned out, both were wrong. I thought that he would either be pronounced "Goh-vee", or like "dove", except with a "g" in place of the "d". But no, he's actually pronounced "Gohv". Silly me.


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While RWBY Chibi recently I noticed some characters were saying flan like flarn, adding an r for some reason.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:48 pm 
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Wtf? I've never heard anyone saying "flarn" for "flan." When I see "flan," I automatically think [flæn] but hear people saying [flɑn]. Pasta is just pasta, not parsta.


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I don't pronounce "flan" and "pasta" the way I do to be pretentious, I pronounce them that way because it actually somewhat approximates how they're pronounced in the original languages.


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