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I think this issue is not just the population size. You find plenty of languages that are robust with only ~1000 speakers near other robust languages with only ~1000 speakers, all crammed into a small area, but in places like New Guinea, California, and Indochina, not in tundra conditions.


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Why must all of the "Amerindian" languages have originated in Beringia? If the current method of expansion theorised is a spread down the Northwest Coast, suggesting a relatively maritime culture, what is there to obviate the possibility of island-hopping up the Aleutians or a jump off the Chukotka penninsula just after the melting of the ice? It would help solve the problem of language stock, as not all of the languages would have had to have been trapped in Beringia before the expansion.

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"Possible" sure, but it seems odd to suggest that people didn't use the incredibly-conspicuous land bridge when the genetic dates for their departure and subsequent divergence match so well the known dates for the appearance and subsequent disappearance of said land bridge, don't you think? If it waddles like a Beringian migration and quacks like a Beringian migration... It wouldn't really solve the problem of language stock, either (which is really a nonproblem anyway as I say earlier): exceptions occur but generally speaking, languages and people travel together. More language groups island-hopping in after the Beringian migration would bring with them more founder populations, which are precluded by the data indicating a single population interbreeding over several millennia.

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