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Lengthening of nasal vowels in older Slavonic

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:53 am
by alice
As I understand it, when a jer dropped, a preceding short vowel lengthened and gained the neoacute intonation. Are there any examples of this happening with a nasal vowel? For example, /CenCu/ > /Ce~:C/?

Re: Lengthening of nasal vowels in older Slavonic

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:47 am
by alice
What a stupid question. Are you an idiot or something? Everybody knows that nasal vowels were always long.

Re: Lengthening of nasal vowels in older Slavonic

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:38 am
by ˈd̪ʲɛ.gɔ kɾuˑl̪
Well, the nasal vowels shortened in Polish before yer dropping, so there were such alternations as /dõːb/ and /dõba/, /ksẽːd͡z/ and /ksẽd͡za/ ("oak" and "prince", Nom and Gen singular). Later, all nasal vowels merged to one quality /ã(ː)/ written ø (ø̄) with former front vowel palatalizing preceding consonants (/dãːb/, /dãba/, /ksʲãːd͡z/, /ksʲãd͡za/). Then short vowel changed to /ɛ̃/ :> today /ɛũ̯/ and long one to /ɔ̃/ :> today /ɔũ̯/, giving current "dąb", "dębu", "ksiądz", "księdza".

Re: Lengthening of nasal vowels in older Slavonic

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:31 am
by hwhatting
I had written something similar to Diego's post, but the internets ate it. Wikipedia has more details on the Polish developments.