Code-switching

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Pole, the wrote:
Io wrote:Yeah, could have been that, I hated listening to it and I didn't pay much attention. And it's pretty appalling that's how it's taught.
Isn't that a variant native pronunciation?
Not AFAIK. The variant native pronunciation is supposed to be [ç]. However, I did have a German teacher who I believe was an American of German heritage (or perhaps was just German??) and pronounced the ich-Laut as [ʃ] but only immediately before [h]. So [ʔɪç bɪn], but [ʔɪʃ ˈhabə].

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Re: Code-switching

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Pole, the wrote:Isn't that a variant native pronunciation?
Yes, in the native pronunciation of uneducated Turks and Kölsch (and I guess some other dialects around there) speakers.

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Io wrote:
Pole, the wrote:Isn't that a variant native pronunciation?
Yes, in the native pronunciation of uneducated Turks and Kölsch (and I guess some other dialects around there) speakers.
That's weird then.
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Pole, the wrote:
Io wrote:
Pole, the wrote:Isn't that a variant native pronunciation?
Yes, in the native pronunciation of uneducated Turks and Kölsch (and I guess some other dialects around there) speakers.
That's weird then.
The stereotypical "foreigner" pronunciation is [ʃ], and you also have that in German dialects. For me, [ɕ] is near enough to [ç] to be a good substitute, and I know Germans learning Polish wo do the same substitution the other way round.

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My girlfiend is Kenyan & often switches languages on the phone with friends & family. As well as English & Swahili she speaks some other African languages & sometimes speaks whole sentences in one before switching to another.

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