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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:24 pm 
Sumerul
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One thing I have noticed is that with regard to flap elision (i.e. elision of unstressed intervocalic /t d n nt nd/) in the dialect here is that it is very much subject to lexical diffusion - some words are more likely to have it that other words, with some words almost always having it, and some words almost never having it - and the exact lexical distribution depends heavily on the individual speaker (e.g. I have it in many words, yet many people only have it in a small set of very common words). Yet at the same time, this presents a problem because flap elision combined with cheshirization has the consequence that flap elision requires phonemic vowel length and phonemic vowel nasality while without flap elision neither vowel length nor vowel nasality are phonemic. So in essence there are two coexisting vowel phonologies, which depend upon the word in question and the particular individual speaking. But how can this be - should there not be one phonology for all words aside from interjections? So how do we resolve this?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:05 pm 
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The only real solution I have come by for my dialect is that the consonants are never elided in the underlying form, but rather are only elided in the surface forms. But this is unsatisfactory because there are many words for which I elide about 95% of the time, and only do not elide when I am deliberately speaking carefully. Also, this only works because of the nature of this phenomenon in my dialect; different cases involving sound change and lexical diffusion in other language varieties may not be amenable to this kind of solution.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:50 pm 
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