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Author:  Buran [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?

I'm trying to make a conlang with dominant-recessive vowel harmony. The problem is, I don't want to create it ex-nihilo, but I can't find information on how dominant-recessive vowel harmony systems arise, whether the harmonising feature is [±ATR] or height (the two types of dominant-recessive harmony systems that seem most common). Does anyone have any examples of a language which doesn't have dominant-recessive harmony developing it?

Author:  linguoboy [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?

Isn't this the kind of system that's arisen in ?

Author:  Soap [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?

I'm not sure I believe in height based harmony.... It seems to be mentioned in early linguistic literature, but looking at the same languages being described I often see those same languages now described as having ATR harmony.

I can't answer your last question,but my hunch is that the +ATR vowels are easier to pronounce and more stable, so tend to be dominant, but I'm not aware of this type of pattern... what languages have dominant/recessive ATR?

Author:  Buran [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?


Author:  Nortaneous [ Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?

IIRC, Kusunda has height harmony [and uvular consonants condition the low set], but functional load is low and there's a lot of free variation.

Author:  Imralu [ Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?

Swahili has a bit of height based harmony. The applicative suffix is -i- or -e- (or -li- or -le- after a vowel. Which one occurs depends on the previous vowel of the stem, with -e- coming after e or o and -i- after a, i, u.

I don't know I how it formed though

Author:  Buran [ Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?

These are all examples of vowel harmony, but what about the dominant-recessive aspect?

Author:  ˈd̪ʲɛ.gɔ kɾuˑl̪ [ Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?

In my own colloquial idiolect of Polish, with its features being shared with me by very few people, I have a front-back (or, to be more specific, palatal-nonpalatal) regressive vowel harmony, often triggered by suffixes, e.g.ładny ['(w)ɑd̪n̪ə] "nice" :> ładnie ['(w)ad̪ɲ̟ɪ] "nicely" or rzut [z̠utʰ] "throw (n)" :> rzucić ['ʒyt͡ɕʰit͡ɕʰ] "throw (v)". For me, it's just easier to pronounce vowels more frontly when there's a front one coming after it.

Author:  Šọ̈́gala [ Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?

Modern Central Tibetan has height harmony which, based on the descriptions I've read, seems to be dominant-recessive (a high vowel anywhere in the word will raise all low vowels). That's a fairly recent development as far as I'm aware.

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