According to some linguists lateral offglides, such as /kˡ/, are no different than clusters, such as /kl/. By this logic, would /nʲ/ be the same as /ɲ/?
Edit: Inserted "lateral offglides"
Offglides
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Offglides
Last edited by yangfiretiger121 on Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Offglides
Strictly speaking, [nʲ] is a palatalized alveolar nasal stop whereas [ɲ] is a palatal nasal stop, i.e. they differ in primary POA. Of course in reality things are not this clear-cut.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.
Re: Offglides
Who is /kˡ/ and where can I read their articles? They sound rad.yangfiretiger121 wrote:According to some linguists, such as /kˡ/, are no different than clusters, such as /kl/. By this logic, would /nʲ/ be the same as /ɲ/?
- ˈd̪ʲɛ.gɔ kɾuˑl̪
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Re: Offglides
I don't think so, assuming you're concerned about the phonological details. The act of denying there's any actual difference between [kˡ] and [kl] relies on the characteristics of lateralisation, while [nʲ] and [ɲ] do differ in the place of articulation. Moreover, I've recently met a group of peer Ukrainians and regardless of what their mother language is, Ukrainian or Russian, I could hear a notable distinction between their palatalised н [nʲ] and our Polish ń [ɲ].
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Re: Offglides
That makes sense.